LookingForAnswers Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 Minus any harm based on a religious point of view what harm comes from well regulated prostitution? The harm done by prostitution exists in ways regulation cannot change. Regulating prostitution doesn't remove the degrading effect it has when women are objectified as sexual objects. :rofl: You don't get out much do you? Our society is built up women being objectified as sexual objects. Have you walked by a magazine stand lately? A certain sports magazine just published its annual swimsuit issue, seems there is something about it that mist be seen as objectifying women as sexual objects. Do you watch much TV? I have been watching a lot of the Olympics and let me tell you, 75% of the ads seem to be objectifying women as sexual objects. One of those inconsistencies that make my head want to explode is that prostitution is illegal but pornography is not. So, being paid to have sex is legal as long as the one having the sex is not the one paying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 I agree that mortality should not be legislated. Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about punishing "hate crimes"? Or spanking laws? Hate crimes are stupid and go against the constitution's equal protection clause. They punish the same action differently based up assumed emotions. They are just an Orwellian way to try and control people. Spanking can harm others so there has to be some sort of rules. I should probably not get started on my personal opinion on spanking. Did you see the footage of the Kansas lawmaker trying to justify a law that would allow teachers, caregivers and parents to spank children hard enough to leave marks. It was embarrassing to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 Minus any harm based on a religious point of view what harm comes from well regulated prostitution? Isn't that enough?? For the pleasure of the flesh, you are willing to give up the walking with God??? It is enough for me personally, but we as a country do not base our laws on the bible, and should not do so. We are not a Theocracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Minus any harm based on a religious point of view what harm comes from well regulated prostitution? The harm done by prostitution exists in ways regulation cannot change. Regulating prostitution doesn't remove the degrading effect it has when women are objectified as sexual objects. :rofl: You don't get out much do you? Our society is built up women being objectified as sexual objects. Have you walked by a magazine stand lately? A certain sports magazine just published its annual swimsuit issue, seems there is something about it that mist be seen as objectifying women as sexual objects. Do you watch much TV? I have been watching a lot of the Olympics and let me tell you, 75% of the ads seem to be objectifying women as sexual objects. One of those inconsistencies that make my head want to explode is that prostitution is illegal but pornography is not. So, being paid to have sex is legal as long as the one having the sex is not the one paying? You aren't winning the argument that prostitution does no harm with this response. In fact, your laughing faces are provocative to raise anger against you. If I could outlaw pornography, I would. Did you read the response I gave to you concerning prostitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I agree that mortality should not be legislated. Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about punishing "hate crimes"? Or spanking laws? Hate crimes are stupid and go against the constitution's equal protection clause. They punish the same action differently based up assumed emotions. They are just an Orwellian way to try and control people. Spanking can harm others so there has to be some sort of rules. I should probably not get started on my personal opinion on spanking. Did you see the footage of the Kansas lawmaker trying to justify a law that would allow teachers, caregivers and parents to spank children hard enough to leave marks. It was embarrassing to watch OK. Can you not see how your opinion on these things are founded on your moral convictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 What sort of a message is being sent to non-believers discriminate against people that are different than them? I think that private businesses should be able to do this legally, but morally I think it is very wrong. It' s not a case of, "you're gay" so you are banned from my store and I will not serve you, period." It is a matter of a gay couple coming in and asking for something that violates the religious convicitons of the store owner. A Christian bakery is not going to say, "you're gay so you cannot buy donuts at my store." Rather, they are saying, "I cannot in good conscience as a Christian make a wedding cake to celebrate same sex marriage." This not like racial bigotry where blacks were not even allowed into certain places and were denied any and all services across the board. This is about gays not being allowed to impose their immoral, perverse lifestyle on to Christians in a manner that forces the Christian to violate their religious convictions. Yes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 Minus any harm based on a religious point of view what harm comes from well regulated prostitution? The harm done by prostitution exists in ways regulation cannot change. Regulating prostitution doesn't remove the degrading effect it has when women are objectified as sexual objects. :rofl: You don't get out much do you? Our society is built up women being objectified as sexual objects. Have you walked by a magazine stand lately? A certain sports magazine just published its annual swimsuit issue, seems there is something about it that mist be seen as objectifying women as sexual objects. Do you watch much TV? I have been watching a lot of the Olympics and let me tell you, 75% of the ads seem to be objectifying women as sexual objects. One of those inconsistencies that make my head want to explode is that prostitution is illegal but pornography is not. So, being paid to have sex is legal as long as the one having the sex is not the one paying? You aren't winning the argument that prostitution does no harm with this response. In fact, your laughing faces are provocative to raise anger against you. If I could outlaw pornography, I would. Did you read the response I gave to you concerning prostitution? I am not trying to win an argument, that is a useless undertaking on this forum. I did, and I will respond to your points here... The risk of spreading venereal diseases is one. Condoms don't protect against AIDS nor the virus that causes cervical cancer. The CDC would disagree with you. And with regulation the risk are mitigated. Most human trafficking today is about prostitution. Pimps are known to be cruel "employers". Legalization and regulation would help to resolve both of these issues Prostitution is emotionally damaging to the women. Not all women involved would agree with you. Is prostitution really any different than what someone like Anna Nicole Smith did? Many marriages are ruined on account of prostitution. No, this is not correct. The problem is not prostitution the problem is a cheating spouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 I agree that mortality should not be legislated. Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about punishing "hate crimes"? Or spanking laws? Hate crimes are stupid and go against the constitution's equal protection clause. They punish the same action differently based up assumed emotions. They are just an Orwellian way to try and control people. Spanking can harm others so there has to be some sort of rules. I should probably not get started on my personal opinion on spanking. Did you see the footage of the Kansas lawmaker trying to justify a law that would allow teachers, caregivers and parents to spank children hard enough to leave marks. It was embarrassing to watch OK. Can you not see how your opinion on these things are founded on your moral convictions? no, I cant. Let me explain. Hate Crimes.. Two men are standing on the street, Bob and John are their names. Two other men walk up and attack Bob and John using the same physical force and brutality. The two men are arrested. The man that was attacking John was yelling racist comments during the attack. This man gets a harsher sentence based upon perceived emotion than the man that attacked Bob. The harsher sentence is meant to discourage such attacks. Thus John is getting greater protection under the law than Bob, and this is against our constitution. This is not a moral judgement, this is just factual. Spanking. If one person is leaving marks and bruises on another person, that person is being harmed and the law should profit one person from harming another. Again, not a moral decision, but one of what our laws are designed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I am going to comment on this. The CDC doesnt know what theyre talking about-condoms do decrease the chances of AIDS and other diseases, but they do not prevent them. In fact, the AIDs virus is the most likely to get through it-its small enough, that a microscopic tear in the condom (which can happen from the mere application and is actually rather common) is big enough to let the AIDs virus through. Of course the CDC wont admit this-they like the rest of the nation, promote free sexuality and they want people to feel safe-so naturally, even if something isnt completly safe, like condoms, theyre not going to admit to it. As far as your argument about prostition ruining marriages, I agree with you. Sure, a prostitute is a temptation and makes an easy way to cheat, but it is the man who makes the choice, if not the prostitute he will likely go elsewhere. Its the cheating spouse that makes the choice, not the prostitute. I do think the practice is degrading to women, unfortunatly many prostitutes don't even realize this, so naturally they think theyre happy. But thats true of pretty much any lifestyle without Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 I am going to comment on this. The CDC doesnt know what theyre talking about-condoms do decrease the chances of AIDS and other diseases, but they do not prevent them. In fact, the AIDs virus is the most likely to get through it-its small enough, that a microscopic tear in the condom (which can happen from the mere application and is actually rather common) is big enough to let the AIDs virus through. Of course the CDC wont admit this-they like the rest of the nation, promote free sexuality and they want people to feel safe-so naturally, even if something isnt completly safe, like condoms, theyre not going to admit to it. As far as your argument about prostition ruining marriages, I agree with you. Sure, a prostitute is a temptation and makes an easy way to cheat, but it is the man who makes the choice, if not the prostitute he will likely go elsewhere. Its the cheating spouse that makes the choice, not the prostitute. I do think the practice is degrading to women, unfortunatly many prostitutes don't even realize this, so naturally they think theyre happy. But thats true of pretty much any lifestyle without Christ The CDC does not say they stop the spread totally, this is a strawman. This is what the CDC says...Consistent and correct use of male latex condoms can reduce (though not eliminate) the risk of STD transmission. and then this...Latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, are highly effective in preventing the sexual transmission of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Do you find swimsuit issues degrading to women? or sexy hamburger ads or Axe ads or a million other things we see on a daily basis in this country. I personally think all these things are bad for women, yet the SI SwimSuit issue is credited with saving the magazine, without it SI would have gone out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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