nebula Posted February 23, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I am not obsessed with advocating and advancing prostitution, I am obsessed with advocating and advancing personal liberty. If two consenting adults wish to have sex and then exchange money, why should you or I care? Why should you or I impose our moral views on other people? Why did Jesus say to the prostitute, "Go and sin no more?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted February 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,800 Content Per Day: 6.17 Reputation: 11,247 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 A wedding cake that celebrates a gay marriage does violate Christian beliefs. It celebrates a gay marriage if you are part of the wedding. If you are making the cake it is no different than any other cake you have made, you are not celebrating anything you are providing a product in exchange for momentary compensation. The one making the cake is celebrating nothing (besides a nice check) unless they are part of the wedding. Making a cake is participating in the wedding preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2014 A wedding cake that celebrates a gay marriage does violate Christian beliefs. It celebrates a gay marriage if you are part of the wedding. If you are making the cake it is no different than any other cake you have made, you are not celebrating anything you are providing a product in exchange for momentary compensation. The one making the cake is celebrating nothing (besides a nice check) unless they are part of the wedding. Making a cake is participating in the wedding preparations. Should Christians not provide any services whatsoever to anything that would be unChristian? By Extension, should people support business that support unChristian causes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2014 A wedding cake that celebrates a gay marriage does violate Christian beliefs. It celebrates a gay marriage if you are part of the wedding. If you are making the cake it is no different than any other cake you have made, you are not celebrating anything you are providing a product in exchange for momentary compensation. The one making the cake is celebrating nothing (besides a nice check) unless they are part of the wedding. Making a cake is participating in the wedding preparations. No, it is a business transaction no different than making a birthday cake or a pizza for a retirement party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) I am not obsessed with advocating and advancing prostitution, I am obsessed with advocating and advancing personal liberty. If two consenting adults wish to have sex and then exchange money, why should you or I care? Why should you or I impose our moral views on other people? Why did Jesus say to the prostitute, "Go and sin no more?" To provide us an example of how to act. Edited February 24, 2014 by LookingForAnswers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I am not obsessed with advocating and advancing prostitution, I am obsessed with advocating and advancing personal liberty. If two consenting adults wish to have sex and then exchange money, why should you or I care? Why should you or I impose our moral views on other people? Why did Jesus say to the prostitute, "Go and sin no more?" To provide us an example of how to act. If that was the intent, why are you not telling anyone to "Sin no more"? But what do you believe about sin, and Jesus going to the cross for our sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2014 You are creating a false dichotomy between using laws to force behavior and not telling people to sin no more. What method did Jesus use? Did he use laws to force behavior changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,738 Content Per Day: 2.44 Reputation: 8,551 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted February 24, 2014 thats funny because your advocating making a law to force behavior change looking. the people at the bakery arnt in congress demanding they outlaw gay marriage. they just refused to bake them a cake. Thats all that bakery did. yet your supporting the government FORCING them to bake the gay couple a cake? so what your saying is your in favor of laws only if they benefit gays, who cares if they trample on christians rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 24, 2014 You are creating a false dichotomy between using laws to force behavior and not telling people to sin no more. What method did Jesus use? Did he use laws to force behavior changes? No, LFA, I am not creating a false dichotomy about laws. Please don't assume my intentions. I am asking you two questions. 1. You said that Jesus was providing us an example of how you act. If this is what you believe, are you, like Him, telling anyone, "Go and sin no more"? 2. What do you believe about sin, and Jesus going to the cross for our sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 24, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2014 thats funny because your advocating making a law to force behavior change looking. the people at the bakery arnt in congress demanding they outlaw gay marriage. they just refused to bake them a cake. Thats all that bakery did. yet your supporting the government FORCING them to bake the gay couple a cake? so what your saying is your in favor of laws only if they benefit gays, who cares if they trample on christians rights? What's funny is that had you read the whole thread you would see where I support their legal right to do this, in fact I think it should be legal for a private company to discriminate all they want. I think a private company should legally be able to put up a sign that says 'no blacks" or "no gays" or "no Christians" or whatever they want. I do not believe this is a moral way to act, but legally they should be allowed. There is a big difference between "can" do something and "should" do that same thing. I believe this bakery is sending a message of hate vice love by refusing to serve these people, but they should be allowed to be as hate-filled as they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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