thereselittleflower Posted September 24, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2015 If a professor is teaching at a Christian college and they are not a Christian then they should leave.There are plenty of other colleges that are liberal and do not believe in God. I agree that it is difficult to be a Christian while believing that man originates from "lower" life forms. But my impression is that those professors, despite their ontological and epistemological predicament, still believe in God and Jesus. I am not a Christian and I am pretty ignorant about the doctrine, therefore I have a question. Assuming that they still believe in God and Jesus with all their heart, will they be punished in the afterlife for having made the mistake of holding an evolutionary position? Christianity teaches on faith and morals, not science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted September 24, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 9.72 Reputation: 5,197 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2015 I only see a conflict between science and the Bible where evolution is concerned. Evolution Theory violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, and the Bible of course. It's not natural for more complex lifeforms to be created without a Creator doing the manipulation. We will return to dust upon death, which is a less complex form. It's only our Creator, the breadth of whom gives us life, and will raise us up because He (Jesus) has conquered death for all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeologist55 Posted October 12, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 334 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 312 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/03/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2015 I only see a conflict between science and the Bible where evolution is concerned. Evolution Theory violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, and the Bible of course. It's not natural for more complex lifeforms to be created without a Creator doing the manipulation. We will return to dust upon death, which is a less complex form. It's only our Creator, the breadth of whom gives us life, and will raise us up because He (Jesus) has conquered death for all time. actually there are more conflicts than just that one topic. But one needs to remember that secular science is run by deceived and blind people and we need to consider the source of other scientific information before accepting it as fact or close to correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnest Posted December 8, 2015 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 18 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2015 It is kind of puzzling why the professors would be offended by claiming all humans come from two people because genetics proved that years ago. There was a PBS special years ago ("The Daughters of Eve") that showed through mitochondrial DNA that all women come from one woman. And more recently it has been proven through Y chromosome studies that all men are descended from one man. That sounds like Adam and Eve to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeologist55 Posted December 8, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 334 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 312 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/03/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2015 6 hours ago, Earnest said: It is kind of puzzling why the professors would be offended by claiming all humans come from two people because genetics proved that years ago. There was a PBS special years ago ("The Daughters of Eve") that showed through mitochondrial DNA that all women come from one woman. And more recently it has been proven through Y chromosome studies that all men are descended from one man. That sounds like Adam and Eve to me. the problem with your post is that you probably missed the parts of those studies that have eve living over 200,000 years ago approx., and Adam living in another era and those studies do not have those two people mating at all. I have read the studies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeologist55 Posted December 8, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 334 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 312 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/03/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2015 On 8/29/2015, 7:58:23, Adam said: The name "Adam" not only is not said by Jesus, but in the four gospels it occurs only in the genealogy in Luke.. At age 13 it bothered me that the world was older than 6000 years, but for 54 years I have been a Christian without believing it or believing it is possible. I have been variously Methodist, Roman Catholic, Episcopalian and now Lutheran as a theistic evolutionist and still can't imagine believing the world Is only 6000 years old. The name Adam does not have to be used by Jesus for Adam and eve to be historical. Paul uses his name and that should suffice. What Jesus said in John 5:45ff is that if people do not believe Moses then they will not believe His words. That passage tells us that Adam and Eve were historical because Moses recorded them as historical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted December 8, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I wouldn't expect anyone to look at that which is the heaven and the earth then conclude that it is merely 6000 years old. Not at all! That is something that would need to be revealed unto man by God. Man can only become wise in his own conceit and deduct from his human reason that which must be true for him. Arrogance won't allow him to simply take God at his word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted December 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 9.72 Reputation: 5,197 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted December 21, 2015 On Tuesday, December 08, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Earnest said: It is kind of puzzling why the professors would be offended by claiming all humans come from two people because genetics proved that years ago. There was a PBS special years ago ("The Daughters of Eve") that showed through mitochondrial DNA that all women come from one woman. And more recently it has been proven through Y chromosome studies that all men are descended from one man. That sounds like Adam and Eve to me. Another newer take on the subject is "The Seven Daughters of Eve", the paperback written in 2002. The PBS Special "The Children of Eve" goes back to 1987. There are probably new books out now on the subject I'm not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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