JohnD Posted June 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Philippians 2:6 (NKJV) 6 who, being in the form of God {morphe theos huparchon never ceasing to be God}, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Jesus never stopped being God the Word in Spirit (John 1:1 / John 1:14). All things emanating from the Father speaks to his authority over all. The Father retains the authority. He created the body of the Son (Hebrew 10:5 / Hebrews 1:5) which is how John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, and 1 John 4:9 can rightly state Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (the Father). And how Luke 3:38, Genesis 6:2, Genesis 6:4, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, and Job 38:7 refer to the sons of God the Word (Jesus preincarnate)... and there be no contradiction... And we who were born (children of the Creator God the Word) as all mankind is, can become children of God the Father through adoption by believing in his Son Jesus. Romans 8:15 (NKJV) 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” Romans 8:23 (NKJV) 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. Galatians 4:5 (NKJV) 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Ephesians 1:5 (NKJV) 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, God help us to discover and live by the truth in scripture. Jesus emptied only his privileges as God not his nature or abilities. Those he put in human submission to the Father... if you read in the verses following: John 5:19 (NKJV) 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. you will discover this is not about his inability but restraint in submission to fulfill the role as kinsman redeemer (which is why he became human in the first place). It also sheds more light on what the three temptations were really about... not sin but disqualification as our kinsman redeemer and all (for humanity) would be lost. And because Jesus (preincarnate) created all things created in the beginning alone by himself is why he was the one to become a man and die for the sins of the world (John 3:16 / 1 Timothy 4:10 / 1 John 2:2 (which means all mankind has the [potential] to be saved but only those who believe in Jesus actually are saved). But it was he who took responsibility for his creation that fell. So the so-called Apostle's creed is wrong. And so are all doctrines, traditions, etc. that do not line up with holy writ (the Bible the Word of God). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,127 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2014 Covers a lot.... I'll have to ponder that all for a while, but sounds ok overall to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babylonisfalling Posted June 27, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 27, 2014 God is omnipresent....He's not backing away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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