"Exodus" Cast Defend their Film

[Guest LadyC]

on the other hand, since most americans have at least some basic knowledge of the bible characters, many may want to look into the bible to see what REALLY happened. maybe i'm naive, but i have to believe most individuals are far more intelligent than to think hollywood's version was accurate. especially since it would be near impossible to not have heard how many christians hated the film.

 

i also believe that christians who do see such films have a better ability to explain to those who may be seeking truth what the inaccuracies are.

 

and parker, of course i know there were no direct references to God. i know because i watched it for myself rather than to just assume what was being said in the media was true. not that i doubted it, and not that it was my reason for watching it. it's just first-hand knowledge. all references to "a creator" were vague and left open to interpretation. and even then their weren't many.

[The_Patriot21]

I will watch it and decide from there whether to boycott it or not. Right now the strongest argument against it is the mostly Caucasian cast. So what does everyone have against white people? Are they racist against white folk? If so perhaps they should boycott most of the movies out of Hollywood. I didn't see anyone boycotting the latest die hard movies or Indiana Jones...or even the hunger games...or how about harry potter...or the hobbit movies...should I continue?

[OldSchool2]

What is Xmas? Who spells Christ with an X? ...

I do, usually to save space, but this time for alliteration.

"X" is the closest English approximation to the Greek Chi-Ro "Christo-gram".

... By the way, didn't the actor who plays Moses call him a psycopath?

According to HuffPo, Christian Bale said:

"I think the man was likely schizophrenic and was one of the most barbaric individuals that I ever read about in my life. He's a very troubled and tumultuous man who fought greatly against God, against his calling."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/27/christian-bale-moses_n_6054336.html

[The_Patriot21]

 

I do, usually to save space, but this time for alliteration.

"X" is the closest English approximation to the Greek Chi-Ro "Christo-gram".

 

and you just proved my point from another thread-it was just to save space. Even knowing what it meant in greek, you do it just to save space. If you do that, X in greek is an irrelevant argument. just saying. .  .

[OldSchool2]

I do, usually to save space, but this time for alliteration.

"X" is the closest English approximation to the Greek Chi-Ro "Christo-gram".

and you just proved my point from another thread-it was just to save space. Even knowing what it meant in greek, you do it just to save space. If you do that, X in greek is an irrelevant argument. just saying. .  .

I just couldn't resist the "Ex", "X" and "ex" in "... but is 'Exodus' just another Xmas extravaganza?"

Of course, I could have posted "holiday" extravaganza, but that could have opened another can of worms.

[Guest shiloh357]

The big problem I have with these Hollywood, biblically themed movies is that they are not simply inaccurately told Bible stories.  These movies are made with an agenda.    I have a friend who is a history professor.  He teaches an elective history class that covers history as portrayed in movies.  The class is designed to help students, most of whom are history majors, to critically evaluate the historical accuracy of films that portray historical events and personalities.

 

He has seen the biblically based movies that have come out as of late, and he noticed that they are not as concerned with the story in the Bible as they are about taking the biblical characters and settings and assigning modern value systems and political/social agendas to them.

 

In the movie "Son of God" all of the redemptive aspects of Jesus ministry are purged from the story of Jesus' life.  For example, John the Baptist in the book of John says, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."   In the movie, Son of God, he says, "Behold the one who bring us into a new age."    Another example is at the Last Supper where Jesus says in the Bible, "this is my body which is broken for you..."  "this is my blood of the new covenant shed for many, for the remission of sins."   In "Son of God"   Jesus says, "This is my body."  "This is my blood."  

 

The movie Noah is all about Evolution and environmentalism, animal rights, and the devaluing of human life.  The earth would essentially be better off without man.

 

It is one thing to take artistic license in a film where you speculate on a conversation between the characters that they might have had.  For example, what would the conversation have been like between Mary and Joseph when she has to explain why she was pregnant?   That's one thing.   But these movies completely gut the stories and their message and essentially rewrite them so that suddenly the characters are nothing like they are seen in the Bible and the Bible is pretty much ignored in the storyline.

 

You cannot have a conversation about the Bible based on movies where the writers have done their best to ignore the biblical storyline altogether.  

 

According to the latest and best reviews, Moses had a head injury and that is why he is talking to God.  Essentially Moses is have a conversation with something he  is imagining in his mind.  His call to be the one to lead Israel from slavery is a delusion created in His mind, and not the product of a conversation with God.  God is essentially a delusion of Moses'.  

 

The story of the Exodus is about redemption and the faithfulness of God, but you won't find it in "Gods and Kings." 

 

To unbelievers, it's all the same.  To them, this is just one of a myriad of equally valid interpretations of the story and thinking that these movies will open up honest dialogues about the movies is wishful thinking.  You are not going to convince anyone that Ridley Scott's version of events is any less valid or that the Bible's record of events is true.

[Tinky]

The big problem I have with these Hollywood, biblically themed movies is that they are not simply inaccurately told Bible stories.  These movies are made with an agenda.    I have a friend who is a history professor.  He teaches an elective history class that covers history as portrayed in movies.  The class is designed to help students, most of whom are history majors, to critically evaluate the historical accuracy of films that portray historical events and personalities.

 

He has seen the biblically based movies that have come out as of late, and he noticed that they are not as concerned with the story in the Bible as they are about taking the biblical characters and settings and assigning modern value systems and political/social agendas to them.

 

In the movie "Son of God" all of the redemptive aspects of Jesus ministry are purged from the story of Jesus' life.  For example, John the Baptist in the book of John says, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."   In the movie, Son of God, he says, "Behold the one who bring us into a new age."    Another example is at the Last Supper where Jesus says in the Bible, "this is my body which is broken for you..."  "this is my blood of the new covenant shed for many, for the remission of sins."   In "Son of God"   Jesus says, "This is my body."  "This is my blood."  

 

The movie Noah is all about Evolution and environmentalism, animal rights, and the devaluing of human life.  The earth would essentially be better off without man.

 

It is one thing to take artistic license in a film where you speculate on a conversation between the characters that they might have had.  For example, what would the conversation have been like between Mary and Joseph when she has to explain why she was pregnant?   That's one thing.   But these movies completely gut the stories and their message and essentially rewrite them so that suddenly the characters are nothing like they are seen in the Bible and the Bible is pretty much ignored in the storyline.

 

You cannot have a conversation about the Bible based on movies where the writers have done their best to ignore the biblical storyline altogether.  

 

According to the latest and best reviews, Moses had a head injury and that is why he is talking to God.  Essentially Moses is have a conversation with something he  is imagining in his mind.  His call to be the one to lead Israel from slavery is a delusion created in His mind, and not the product of a conversation with God.  God is essentially a delusion of Moses'.  

 

The story of the Exodus is about redemption and the faithfulness of God, but you won't find it in "Gods and Kings." 

 

To unbelievers, it's all the same.  To them, this is just one of a myriad of equally valid interpretations of the story and thinking that these movies will open up honest dialogues about the movies is wishful thinking.  You are not going to convince anyone that Ridley Scott's version of events is any less valid or that the Bible's record of events is true.

 

 

Great post, Shiloh!   

[Guest]

on the other hand, since most americans have at least some basic knowledge of the bible characters, many may want to look into the bible to see what REALLY happened. maybe i'm naive, but i have to believe most individuals are far more intelligent than to think hollywood's version was accurate. especially since it would be near impossible to not have heard how many christians hated the film.

 

i also believe that christians who do see such films have a better ability to explain to those who may be seeking truth what the inaccuracies are.

 

and parker, of course i know there were no direct references to God. i know because i watched it for myself rather than to just assume what was being said in the media was true. not that i doubted it, and not that it was my reason for watching it. it's just first-hand knowledge. all references to "a creator" were vague and left open to interpretation. and even then their weren't many.

Nothing personal, Lady C.

[Guest LadyC]

 

on the other hand, since most americans have at least some basic knowledge of the bible characters, many may want to look into the bible to see what REALLY happened. maybe i'm naive, but i have to believe most individuals are far more intelligent than to think hollywood's version was accurate. especially since it would be near impossible to not have heard how many christians hated the film.

 

i also believe that christians who do see such films have a better ability to explain to those who may be seeking truth what the inaccuracies are.

 

and parker, of course i know there were no direct references to God. i know because i watched it for myself rather than to just assume what was being said in the media was true. not that i doubted it, and not that it was my reason for watching it. it's just first-hand knowledge. all references to "a creator" were vague and left open to interpretation. and even then their weren't many.

Nothing personal, Lady C.

 

 

no offense taken (or meant in return) parker. i got a little tickled that you were asking me if i knew that when i'd already said i'd seen the movie LOL. 

 

i know that there are a great many who choose not to watch biblically "based" movies. and i use the term "based" very loosely. like i said in a previous post, the only thing they got right about noah was his name. but i do enjoy watching them. if for nothing else, i'd rather waste my money on video entertainment that doesn't have filthy language and gratuitious sex. i could go on with a half a dozen  reasons in my defense of why i choose TO watch them, but it's more than even the sum of those reasons.

 

i just genuinely enjoy it.

[Guest]

When I say "you" I don't mean the literal "you" but the corporate reader "you." I've been around so long (and you, too) that I thought that it was common knowledge that is what most of us mean when we say "you" in a topic like this.