SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 12, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,059 Content Per Day: 14.09 Reputation: 5,193 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Science is breaking down the molecules of the universe, of life to basic atomic particles and subatomic particles. But science cannot explain life. God breathed into Adam and he became a living soul. How does science explain the difference if the animate and inanimate are all made from the same molecules down to the subatomic level? Edited January 12, 2015 by Nobody-2441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted January 12, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2015 Atheistic Science has no reason. It cannot explain the why. It also cannot explain how all of this order exploded into being Like everything and everyone else...science without God is lost, and needs desperately to find God, to make any sense at all. You know how there is very little noise about quantum physics? I think the people who delve into see the fingerprints of God....and run away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Atheistic Science has no reason.... It cannot explain the why.... It also cannot explain.... how all of this order exploded into being Like everything and everyone else science without God is lost.... and needs desperately to find God.... to make any sense at all You know how there is very little noise about quantum physics.... I think the people who delve into it.... see the fingerprints of God.... and run away And I Think When Some Folk Delve Into Quantum Physics While Trying To Exclude The God Of Creation, Jesus...They Start To Talk In Gibberish He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Ecclesiastes 3:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 13, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,059 Content Per Day: 14.09 Reputation: 5,193 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Atheistic Science has no reason. It cannot explain the why. It also cannot explain how all of this order exploded into being Like everything and everyone else...science without God is lost, and needs desperately to find God, to make any sense at all. You know how there is very little noise about quantum physics? I think the people who delve into see the fingerprints of God....and run away Order is contrary to science. Everything is subject to chaos. Erosion, decay and death are our future without God. Very good observation and post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Harris Posted January 18, 2015 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 5 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 18, 2015 This is what is sometimes termed "the God of the gaps" argument, and it is one that apologists make at their peril. For those not familiar with this line of reasoning, it goes like this: Science can not explain X, therefore Yahweh did it. The first problem with arguing this way is that the argument works equally well ( or poorly ) if one replaces 'Yahweh" with Allah, or Lord Brahma or any of the thousands of dead Gods that now lie on that scrapheap of history we call mythology, Secondly, since the body of knowledge we wrest from mute nature via the scientific method is ever increasing, the places where one can interject the tinkerings of a deity are fewer each day. It is child's play for even a semi-educated person to come up with a list of phenomena that used to be attributed to some invisible entity or other which now are understood through science by everyone save a few benighted souls in the wilds of Africa. In the time when the Bible was written diseases were attributed to demonic possession or the wrath of the divine until we discovered microorganisms. Few people now will opt for an exorcism instead of a shot of antibiotics to cure their pneumonia. Until quite recently all well-thinking people knew that earthquakes, as well as lightning, were God's punishment for sinful shenanigans, until we understood that we're living on a cooling crust and discovered plate tectonics. In the Middle Ages, the mentally ill were beaten with sticks as it was imagined this would vacate the demons that resided in these poor people. To my knowledge this cure is no longer in fashion in our psychiatric hospitals. So be very careful using this line of defense for your religious beliefs. In the fullness of time it is a losing strategy. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted January 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The scientific method is actually derived from the Bible. Christianity is the only World belief whose creation theory follows the scientific method. There is nothing wrong with science. Science is good, the problem lies with scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Well said, OakWood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Harris Posted January 20, 2015 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 5 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2015 The scientific method is actually derived from the Bible. Christianity is the only World belief whose creation theory follows the scientific method. There is nothing wrong with science. Science is good, the problem lies with scientists. This is one of the reasons why I never tire of having discussions with the religious; you never know what they are going to say next. Would you be so kind as to elaborate on your rather esoteric theory that we derive the scientific method from the Bible ? Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 20, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,254 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,983 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2015 The scientific method is actually derived from the Bible. Christianity is the only World belief whose creation theory follows the scientific method. There is nothing wrong with science. Science is good, the problem lies with scientists. This is one of the reasons why I never tire of having discussions with the religious; you never know what they are going to say next. Would you be so kind as to elaborate on your rather esoteric theory that we derive the scientific method from the Bible ? Sam You might try and read "Genesis and the Big Bang" written by Gerald Schroeder PhD.. I don't have the time nor the inclination to go through a multiple hundred page book to point out all the ways, but he does a pretty good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Harris Posted January 20, 2015 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 5 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2015 The scientific method is actually derived from the Bible. Christianity is the only World belief whose creation theory follows the scientific method. There is nothing wrong with science. Science is good, the problem lies with scientists. This is one of the reasons why I never tire of having discussions with the religious; you never know what they are going to say next. Would you be so kind as to elaborate on your rather esoteric theory that we derive the scientific method from the Bible ? Sam You might try and read "Genesis and the Big Bang" written by Gerald Schroeder PhD.. I don't have the time nor the inclination to go through a multiple hundred page book to point out all the ways, but he does a pretty good job. This is confusing. You thought it necessary to inform us of a book you like, but in the next sentence you announce that you do not have the inclination to tell us about it. Sam Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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