OneLight Posted January 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2015 OneofGodsown, by your own words, you claim you do not study Gods word enough, proving to me that you do not understand the basics of Christianity. Your thread has continued in hopes that you will listen to those who are telling you the truth, yet you now claim you found in scripture that God will not allow anyone to go to hell. That is false. What is true is that if one continues in Christ, as scripture shows us how, they will make it. If one decided not to follow scripture, and gamble that they will be given a free pass, they will be disappointed for scripture tells us, in many many places, that those who do not follow Jesus will perish. What you are saying is a slap in the face of Christ Jesus, who died for our sins, and false teaching.To me, your belief is in line with that of Universalism, which is a false doctrine and not allowed to be taught here ... it is that bad. I also question why you refuse what people are showing you in scripture. I urge you, and encourage you, to take scripture seriously and not some pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfGodsOwn Posted January 20, 2015 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 24 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 I showed you a verse in the bible where Jesus specifically states that one is lost. I only saw the parts where Jesus warned about hell. Are you sure that Jesus said he will be going to hell for sure? Luke 16:22-24 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. The bible repeatedly tells us we have the choice, but we do not know how long we will live to make this choice, now is the time to answer Jesus who calls to us, and most assuredly there are many who miss the narrow road. That is a parable Jesus told not a factual account of what happened. The fact that you would try to use a parable shows not only how lacking your position is, but also shows what kind of tricks you will use to prove yourself right. I don't think I want to talk with you anymore. So from your original post, you said not sinning saves you. Not Jesus. Thats not what the bible says. So you think that turning your back on God is not a sin? Try to think out what you say a little more. as I said...you are making the choice to keep this going and refusing to accept scripture at it's face value. What God can do is keep his promise and his Word.... His Word says...2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not purposing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a rushing noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat. And the earth and the works in it will be burned up. Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your name, and through Your name throw out demons, and through Your name do many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness! I do accept scripture though. Everyone keeps quoting warnings at me like they prove me wrong, but they don't. When you quote those parts of the bible you don't show anything wrong with what I said. You show you don't understand. You are in danger of hell, but God helps you. OneofGodsown, by your own words, you claim you do not study Gods word enough, proving to me that you do not understand the basics of Christianity. Your thread has continued in hopes that you will listen to those who are telling you the truth, yet you now claim you found in scripture that God will not allow anyone to go to hell. That is false. What is true is that if one continues in Christ, as scripture shows us how, they will make it. If one decided not to follow scripture, and gamble that they will be given a free pass, they will be disappointed for scripture tells us, in many many places, that those who do not follow Jesus will perish. What you are saying is a slap in the face of Christ Jesus, who died for our sins, and false teaching. To me, your belief is in line with that of Universalism, which is a false doctrine and not allowed to be taught here ... it is that bad. I also question why you refuse what people are showing you in scripture. I urge you, and encourage you, to take scripture seriously and not some pipe dream. I said I found that God hasn't sent anyone to hell. That is true. Twisting my words and claiming they are wrong doesn't help anyone. What I'm saying is not Universalism and it's not a slap in the face. You prove here that you don't understand what I'm saying. I agree that those that don't follow Jesus will perish. I think we also agree that God wants to help people come to know Jesus. The difference is that I think God can do it and you think he will fail. Tell me again what belief is a slap in the face? ownd. - I can see pretty clear what kind of place this is now. No one understood what I was saying because you all are so stuck in your own personal reading of the bible you can't see 5 feet away. It's no wonder no one could answer my question. None of you could even go so far as to imagine thinking any other way. It's sad and it's sadder still to try to twist what I say to pretend to prove me wrong. It's not like what we say here changes how the world works. I urge you all to pray about this because it's the LORD and what HE says that matters. Good bye and good luck. You won't see me again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2015 OneofGodsown, by your own words, you claim you do not study Gods word enough, proving to me that you do not understand the basics of Christianity. Your thread has continued in hopes that you will listen to those who are telling you the truth, yet you now claim you found in scripture that God will not allow anyone to go to hell. That is false. What is true is that if one continues in Christ, as scripture shows us how, they will make it. If one decided not to follow scripture, and gamble that they will be given a free pass, they will be disappointed for scripture tells us, in many many places, that those who do not follow Jesus will perish. What you are saying is a slap in the face of Christ Jesus, who died for our sins, and false teaching.To me, your belief is in line with that of Universalism, which is a false doctrine and not allowed to be taught here ... it is that bad. I also question why you refuse what people are showing you in scripture. I urge you, and encourage you, to take scripture seriously and not some pipe dream.I said I found that God hasn't sent anyone to hell. That is true. Twisting my words and claiming they are wrong doesn't help anyone. What I'm saying is not Universalism and it's not a slap in the face. You prove here that you don't understand what I'm saying. I agree that those that don't follow Jesus will perish. I think we also agree that God wants to help people come to know Jesus. The difference is that I think God can do it and you think he will fail. Tell me again what belief is a slap in the face? ownd.-I can see pretty clear what kind of place this is now. No one understood what I was saying because you all are so stuck in your own personal reading of the bible you can't see 5 feet away. It's no wonder no one could answer my question. None of you could even go so far as to imagine thinking any other way. It's sad and it's sadder still to try to twist what I say to pretend to prove me wrong. It's not like what we say here changes how the world works. I urge you all to pray about this because it's the LORD and what HE says that matters. Good bye and good luck. You won't see me again!I don't have to twist anything. They are your own words. Guys I figured it out.I prayed over it again and asked for help and it hit me. A loving God can't allow people to hell. He is the one that's looking out for us and the one that takes care of us. If someone is lost on the wrong path he will fight for them and when God fights for something he gets it. I was looking around on the net and I saw that the bible never even says anyone goes to hell. It's all just warnings. Hell is empty.I can't wait to tell my atheist friend. Thanks for your help everyone!Read your own words. This whole thread is like a winding back road, twisting from one side to another. This game is now over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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