emekrus Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 57 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2015 “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy Kingdom”—Hebrews 1:8 A discussion of The Deity of Jesus, is simply a discussion of his Divinity. It is a discussion of his personality as the Almighty God- and not as a smaller God (god) under the Father- as many erroneously believe and teach… Many a time, I have heard the “Evangelicals” teach that Jesus is a smaller God (god) than the Father. And their premises for that conclusion is that Isaiah 9:6, renders Jesus as “Mighty God” and not Almighty God… Then their second position is that Jesus was created by the Father- and that, they support with Revelations 3:14 which says; “…The beginning of the creation of God.” And consequently, they’ve erroneously modified their customized Bible and translated the Lord Jesus to a small god, like every one of us (Thereby making Jesus equal with us)… Thus, denying completely his Supreme Deity as God Almighty. Hence, this article, seeks to debunk and correct this demonic error, and point people to the true personality and glory of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, scripturally. Because, if we do not understand his true personality or Deity, we’ll not be able to magnify and glorify him as we ought to. Instead, we’ll undermine him (in our hearts) in much the same way as the “Evangelicals”; and consequently, the declaration of his name from our lips, will not yield much results… Debunking The Errors Error 1: Jesus is The Mighty God and not The Almighty God This doctrine is a myopic one, because there is absolutely no difference between ‘Mighty’ and Almighty, both in the original Hebrew and Greek meaning. They both mean-Exceedingly Powerful… Then witnessing from the scriptures, Revelations 1:8, refers to Jesus as the Almighty. Though they may modify that verse as well, in their customized Bible to make it say what they believe… Error 2 Jesus is a Creation This also is another myopic doctrine. Although, the translation of Revelation 3: 14; seem ambiguous, in that it seem to say Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God, but the actual translation should have been; “The beginner of the creation of God” and this position is seconded by John 1:3 (you know, in the mouth of two witnesses is every matter confirmed)… Verse 3 says; “All things were made by him (Jesus- The Word), and without him was not anything made that was made”. Hence, the one that made everything (minus nothing) couldn’t have been possibly created. In short, such reasoning is absolutely preposterous and demonic. Who Then is Jesus Christ? Jesus is the second person of the Godhead (1 John 5:7). He had been in, working and manifesting through the Father before creation—John 1:18; Ch. 14:10; Ch. 17:5, 21. However, his position as the second person of the trinity, is not hierarchical. The Godhead- Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, have exactly the same Deity… The three of them, are exactly one entity.-Almighty God. Hence, Jesus is Almighty God, as much as the Father and the Holy Spirit, are Almighty God. And as such, he possesses all the features of Deity. Which are: Omni-presence, Omni-science and Omnipotence. So he can be properly worshipped as much as the Father and the Holy Spirit can be worshipped. To this end, the Godhead is equal (absolute congruency) in Deity but unequal in authority. Jesus and the Holy Spirit has exactly equal authority in the Godhead, while the father has greater authority than the two of them. This can be explained as follows: When Jesus was about to be crucified, he introduced the Holy Spirit thus: “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you forever;”—John 14:16. In essence, he was saying, he would pray the Father to send us a different person of exactly the same kind. That is from the Greek words “Allos Parakletos”… But the Father, is greater than the both of them. And his greatness above them, is in terms of ownership authority- John 14:28; 15:26; 1 Corinthians 11:3; Ch. 3:23-and administrative authority- John 13:16; Ch. 14:10; Ch. 17:2, 8. Finally, Jesus is the personification of the Godhead. That is, the Godhead in Form (manifestation). We only see or have access to the Deity of the Godhead through Jesus… Hence, once we see Jesus, we have seen the entire Godhead-The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (John 14:16, 9-11; Heb 1:3; Col 2:9). Hence, if we get to heaven presently, it is Jesus as a person we’ll see on the throne. This can be clearly seen from the book of Revelations. In the book of Revelations, it was Jesus whom John saw in the form of a living stone, seating on the throne (Rev 4:1-5) and at the same time, symbolizing himself as the slain Lamb (Rev 5:6)-with seven horns and eyes… This can be understood by comparing Revelations 1:8 and 4:8. During judgment, both in the first resurrection and the white Throne Judgment, he will be the one seating on the throne to judge all of us-John 5:22, Rev 20:4-5; verses 11-15. But in all, he reigns and rules under subjection to and the dictates of the Father, which dwells fully in him. Hence, the Father is all in all -1 Corinthians 15:27-28; ch 3:23; 11:3-and is glorified by and through the Son, Jesus Christ-Hebrews 1:3. By the special grace of God, I have endeavored to prophesy the Deity of Jesus, according to the measure of my faith. But there is no one that can reveal the Deity of Jesus as much as the Holy Spirit. Ask him for further Revelations of the Deity of The Almighty LORD and Savior Jesus Christ; and I guarantee you, he will, if you lay aside every form of religion and be open hearted and minded. Remain Blessed in Jesus Precious Name! Emeke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2015 I've never heard anyone preach that Jesus is a 'god' and less than God. Jesus IS God, and part of the Holy Trinity. I don't think you'll find many Christians who don't agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2015 I've never heard anyone preach that Jesus is a 'god' and less than God. Jesus IS God, and part of the Holy Trinity. I don't think you'll find many Christians who don't agree with that. MorningGlory, Please see John 1:1 in the Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation online. Also see their perversion of Hebrews 1:8. They teach that Jesus is a god, as do many cults. Arianism, Semi-Arianism and Socianism were heresies long before the JWs, the Christadelphians, etc. The Bible declares that Christ is GOD manifest in the flesh (1 Tim 3:16) but none of the modern bible versions have the word "God" (Theos). Indeed, all modern Bibles relentless attack the Deity of Christ and the triune Godhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2015 I've never heard anyone preach that Jesus is a 'god' and less than God. Jesus IS God, and part of the Holy Trinity. I don't think you'll find many Christians who don't agree with that. MorningGlory, Please see John 1:1 in the Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation online. Also see their perversion of Hebrews 1:8. They teach that Jesus is a god, as do many cults. Arianism, Semi-Arianism and Socianism were heresies long before the JWs, the Christadelphians, etc. The Bible declares that Christ is GOD manifest in the flesh (1 Tim 3:16) but none of the modern bible versions have the word "God" (Theos). Indeed, all modern Bibles relentless attack the Deity of Christ and the triune Godhead. I've not read the JW version of the Bible and probably won't. I'll take your word for it. But why do you say modern versions of the Bible don't refer to God? I know the Trinity isn't mentioned but I'm sure the name 'God' is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,859 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,763 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2015 Be carefull, what you suggesting, And the way you taulking about the people Jesus loves very much. Jesus loves you too, not because you are without any strange ideas, then whom he is going to love? I see you are inviting an examination, I sure hope so. Please I. D. The issues and the relevant information, for an orderly go at it. Who said and when, and to whom, " my GOD and your GOD" Do you see this as an offence to Jesus? Remember, Jesus said many things, about himself, what do you thing, I am the life, and the light if this World, I am the resuraction, you must not like it when he said, "I am the son of Man" My Father whom you don't know is in heavens, and I am he who sent to be the Christ, I am his SON, not the Father in the heavens, I wiil die for the forgiveness of sins, God raise Jesus from the dead and gave him .... I am the Door to the heavenly Father, he is our peace with the Father. I come from the BOSSOM of the Father the one who has never spoke to no one only to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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