Your closest friendnt Posted July 28, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Reformed Baptist said: Why does a theological term in modern usage have to be found in the bible? The word Trinity isn't in the bible is that therefore also theological nonsense? Now, the term certainly has some redundancy in it, but it is most commonly used to differentiate between nominal and real Christianity within our societies, it also functions as a term of derision as well - however I still wish to know why a term needs to be in the bible in the exact expression we use in modern English before it is valid for our use? How can we understand what Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus, a man born into the family of Abraham through one of the tribes of Jacob , sircumsize according to the Law and in full obedience to the Law, and the ceremonial cleances (water was been use for these ceremonies to remove uncleanliness ) having been taught that the promish of the Kingdom of God will be reaved in his Generation. Nicodemus had a concept of the Kingdom of God, the same consept as all the other Jews had and the disciples of Jesus that time. So Jesus was addressing not only the beliefs of Nicodemus about the coming Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of his Christ , the Son of David , but also the beliefs of all the other Jews and that of the disciples. Jesus was telling all of them that they have the wrong consept of the Kingdom of God, believing that the Christ, (to Nicodemus and the disciples and others, this been Jesus), and expecting that he will restore the glory of Davids Kingdom on their land, been the ruler over both kingdoms of Israel just like his Father, defeating all the enemies and never have to die he will rule for ever, no a chance for his children to inherite the Kingdom (if he would have wifes and children like his Father David. The believed that the inheritance of the Christ it was an earthly inheritance. That the Christ will live rule and live forever, but they will die and go to the Bossom of Abraham as usual. Jesus gave Nicodemus a hind that he will die, and he will have a Heavenly inheritance and the children of this Heavenly inheritance will see the Kingdom of God, when the time comes after his death and they can be the children of the Heavens , born from above , the redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, and sealed by the spirit of God. The born from above by faith in Jesus Christ. This culture of Including their lifestyle together with their faith in Jesus Christ and claiming that this is the only way not to go to Hell is against the Gospel of the Good news of Jesus Christ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformed Baptist Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 235 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1973 Share Posted July 29, 2016 10 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: How can we understand what Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus, a man born into the family of Abraham through one of the tribes of Jacob , sircumsize according to the Law and in full obedience to the Law, and the ceremonial cleances (water was been use for these ceremonies to remove uncleanliness ) having been taught that the promish of the Kingdom of God will be reaved in his Generation. Nicodemus had a concept of the Kingdom of God, the same consept as all the other Jews had and the disciples of Jesus that time. So Jesus was addressing not only the beliefs of Nicodemus about the coming Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of his Christ , the Son of David , but also the beliefs of all the other Jews and that of the disciples. Jesus was telling all of them that they have the wrong consept of the Kingdom of God, believing that the Christ, (to Nicodemus and the disciples and others, this been Jesus), and expecting that he will restore the glory of Davids Kingdom on their land, been the ruler over both kingdoms of Israel just like his Father, defeating all the enemies and never have to die he will rule for ever, no a chance for his children to inherite the Kingdom (if he would have wifes and children like his Father David. The believed that the inheritance of the Christ it was an earthly inheritance. That the Christ will live rule and live forever, but they will die and go to the Bossom of Abraham as usual. Jesus gave Nicodemus a hind that he will die, and he will have a Heavenly inheritance and the children of this Heavenly inheritance will see the Kingdom of God, when the time comes after his death and they can be the children of the Heavens , born from above , the redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, and sealed by the spirit of God. The born from above by faith in Jesus Christ. This culture of Including their lifestyle together with their faith in Jesus Christ and claiming that this is the only way not to go to Hell is against the Gospel of the Good news of Jesus Christ . Again i see no relevance in your post to mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 On 8/24/2015 at 6:18 AM, robin hood said: I have read it . It says nothing about Born Again Christians . Read it again and you will see what it actually says . "Christians" is a descriptive title for those who have been "born again". you could call them "believers" or you could call them "followers of The Way".... or you could call them "disciples of Christ" or you could read this verse ......"And it came about that for an entire year they met with the church, and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch." (Acts 11:23-26). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I don't have a problem being called a Christian, that is what I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrolMan Posted September 26, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/01/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/15/1941 Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 8/24/2015 at 4:37 AM, robin hood said: Too often I come across the term " Born Again Christian " . The term will not be found in the Bible . The term is actually theological nonsense......Just think about it......it doesn't make sense.....it was never used by Jesus . Are you a new convert or Christian? Most folks that have studied the word will disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted September 27, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,138 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Online Share Posted September 27, 2016 There are certainly enough Scripture verses to say'Yes,being BORN AGAIN is found in the Bible".....here are a few examples Quote KING JAMES VERSION John 3:3 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.1 Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.John 3:1-8 - There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: (Read More...)John 3:1-7 - There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: (Read More...)Romans 6:4 - Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (Read More...)Romans 6:6 - Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.Romans 10:9-10 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Read More...)Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:1 Corinthians 3:8 - Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.Ephesians 2:5-6 - Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) (Read More...)John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted September 27, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2016 10 hours ago, kwikphilly said: There are certainly enough Scripture verses to say'Yes,being BORN AGAIN is found in the Bible".....here are a few examples Blessings Kwik, I think that the point the op wants to make is that we should rather inform believers in general that they belong to Jesus Christ, that because of their faith in Jesus Christ they are the spiritual children of God, born from above, that's where they belong, because of Jesus Christ. This is a peaceful message and informs of the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dok Posted September 28, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 57 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) I was Spiritually birthed the split-second I confessed Jesus as Savior, Romans 10:8-13, having previously been sinfully birthed. That's the "born from above" experience. It is reborn, born anew, out of the confines of sin and into the Amazing Grace of our Savior. The English language has undergone many changes over the centuries. Adjectives have been added to terminology that was once sufficient in and of itself: True became "absolutely" true. False became "definitely" false. Christian, in and of itself, contains "born again," "born from above," "Spiritually birthed," without further clarification. The adjective was unnecessarily added. That doesn't mean it is wrong or worthy of being trashed! I'll accept "born again Christian" or "born again Believer" anytime! I just realize that Christian says it all. Christian. Wow! How firm a foundation!" Edited September 28, 2016 by Dok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted September 28, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 28, 2016 On 8/24/2015 at 4:48 AM, Logan said: John 3:3Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God That's my boy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted September 28, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, RustyAngeL said: That's my boy!!!!! We must no see the Nicodemus incounder out of contex. Only the Jews were the children of God. And Jesus was telling Nicodemus that this special privileged of been the seed of Abraham is coming to an end. By destiny Nicodemus who was from the seed of Abraham, and not him only, lived at the crossroads of the transition of the old to the new covenant. If Nicodemus would have die before the cross, he will die as a child of God, because of his Abrahamic Inheritance , but if he lived and refuse faith in Jesus Christ he will be lost, but if he believe he will be a child of God on account of Jesus Christ. And this time will be deferent , this time he will have a heavenly inheritance and he will count on the atonement of Jesus Christ, and will be one in Spirit with God. That passage tell us that Jesus Christ told Nicodemus of the things to come in his name, and at the same time, that the Jewish structure will have no value to God, even thought the Jewis will continiun to follow. Edited September 28, 2016 by Your closest friendnt finishing the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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