Serving Posted October 7, 2015 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 934 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 905 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/05/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/14/1969 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Ezekiel 21:25-2725 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him. Workers of iniquityJob 4:8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.Abound stillMatthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Even amongst our ownLuke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.But it must be for nowMatthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.But the day is comingMatthew 13:41 (a) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, And in a particular LANDMatthew 13:41 (b) and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, Where iniquity will indeed endMatthew 13:41 (c) and them which do iniquity; Even foreverRevelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Where the Lord exalted the lowMatthew 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. To become the highRevelation And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. But it is here :Ezekiel 21:27 (a) I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: Where the main focus is concernedEzekiel 21:27 (b) and it shall be no more, Awaiting fulfilmentEzekiel 21:27 (c) until he come whose right it is; Awaiting her KingEzekiel 21:27 (d) and I will give it him. Q: So what precisely is it that is being overturned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted October 7, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2015 Q: So what precisely is it that is being overturned? What precisely will be overturned is Satan's control over the world . The Mystery of Iniquity and Mystery Babylon are being allowed to run their course, but at the Second Coming of Christ everything will be judged and destroyed, and the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet, along with all the evil angels and demons, will be cast into the Lake of fire. The profane wicked prince of Israel is none other than the Man of Sin, the Antichrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted October 10, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,602 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,449 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Shabbat shalom, Serving. Ezekiel 21:25-2725 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him. Workers of iniquityJob 4:8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.Abound stillMatthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Even amongst our ownLuke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.But it must be for nowMatthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.But the day is comingMatthew 13:41 (a) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, And in a particular LANDMatthew 13:41 (b) and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, Where iniquity will indeed endMatthew 13:41 (c) and them which do iniquity; Even foreverRevelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Where the Lord exalted the lowMatthew 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. To become the highRevelation And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. But it is here :Ezekiel 21:27 (a) I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: Where the main focus is concernedEzekiel 21:27 (b) and it shall be no more, Awaiting fulfilmentEzekiel 21:27 (c) until he come whose right it is; Awaiting her KingEzekiel 21:27 (d) and I will give it him. Q: So what precisely is it that is being overturned? Sometimes, the answer lies in simply knowing what the word means and in picking the right translation for one to understand:Ezekiel 21:29-3229(24) “Therefore this is what ADONAI Elohim says: ‘Because you have caused your guilt to be remembered, with your misdeeds revealed and the sins in all your actions evident — since you have been remembered, you will be captured.’ 30(25) As for you, you wicked prince of Isra’el, due to be killed, whose day has come, at the time of final punishment, 31(26) here is what ADONAI Elohim says:‘Remove the turban, take off the crown!Everything is being changed.What was low will be raised up,and what was high will be brought down. 32(27) Ruin! Ruin!I will leave it a ruinsuch as there has never been,and it will stay that wayuntil the rightful ruler comes,and I give it to him.’ CJBEzekiel 21:24-2724 "Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: 'Because you people have brought to mind your guilt by your open rebellion, revealing your sins in all that you do — because you have done this, you will be taken captive. 25 "'O profane and wicked prince of Israel, whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax, 26 this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low. 27 A ruin! A ruin! I will make it a ruin! It will not be restored until he comes to whom it rightfully belongs; to him I will give it.' NIVThe Hebrew word for “overturn” is...OT:5754 `avvaah (av-vaw'); intensive from OT:5753 abbreviated; overthrow:KJV - overturn. OT:5753 `aavaah (aw-vaw'); a primitive root; to crook, literally or figuratively (as follows):KJV - do amiss, bow down, make crooked, commit iniquity, pervert, (do) perverse (-ly), trouble, turn, do wickedly, do wrong.(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)Both passages above are talking about Israel’s KINGSHIP! What YHWH was saying is that the Kingship of Israel would cease until the rightful heir to the throne comes. Like the crook of a shepherd’s staff, God will turn things around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Posted October 12, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,727 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 2,305 Days Won: 5 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2015 Q: So what precisely is it that is being overturned? What precisely will be overturned is Satan's control over the world . The Mystery of Iniquity and Mystery Babylon are being allowed to run their course, but at the Second Coming of Christ everything will be judged and destroyed, and the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet, along with all the evil angels and demons, will be cast into the Lake of fire. The profane wicked prince of Israel is none other than the Man of Sin, the Antichrist. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.Only 2. No mention of evil angels or demons being thrown in there at the coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted October 12, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Q: So what precisely is it that is being overturned? What precisely will be overturned is Satan's control over the world . The Mystery of Iniquity and Mystery Babylon are being allowed to run their course, but at the Second Coming of Christ everything will be judged and destroyed, and the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet, along with all the evil angels and demons, will be cast into the Lake of fire. The profane wicked prince of Israel is none other than the Man of Sin, the Antichrist. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.Only 2. No mention of evil angels or demons being thrown in there are the coming?~Beloved, ThenAnd when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 2-:7-10There Is ThatThen shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serving Posted October 12, 2015 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 934 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 905 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/05/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/14/1969 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Ezekiel 2124 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.It is Jerusalem.When this was prophesied, Jerusalem herself was yet to be attacked by Babylon.Then it happened, Jerusalem, and her inhabitants which were left from Babylon's initial attack, was at this time (2nd incursion) completely overturned by Babylon whereby ALL the survivors in the land from this final attack fled to Egypt as recorded in Jeremiah & Jerusalem was emptied and abandoned and her land enjoyed her Sabbaths 70 years .. this = overturn #1 Next Rome razed Jerusalem with a mighty slaughter and the land was once again emptied and bereft of her inhabitants and lay in ruins .. this = overturn #2.And soon will come the next overturn whereby the false prophet himself will conquer Jerusalem and set up his throne there .. this will be overturn # 3.It is after this 3rd overturn of Jerusalem, and at the appointed time, which overturn is a prophetic signpost, that The Lord will come and that wicked prince will be dethroned .. and unlike the previous restorations of Jerusalem, this one is not the same, for the Lord Himself is coming to reign .. and His reign will never end .. and Jerusalem will never again be overturned for ever and ever .. and from Jerusalem He will likewise rule over the world with a rod of iron, which thing is also "not the same" as before.This is what was "given Him" :Zechariah 2:12 And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.This is the inheritance God has given Him .. Jerusalem which is chief city of Judah, which city represented God's seat amongst man from antiquity .. the chief city over Israel .. Jerusalem where He will establish His throne when He returns, even for ever.Which tells us that Jerusalem must be conquered one last time .. then the Lord will come.This is what I see .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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