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  1. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Charlie I do not agree with this. If I had not read Revelation chapter 17, I would of been just as confused as Daniel was. He was given the interpretation, but still did not understand fully. And if Daniel could not fully understand it, no one else back then could. It was just too far back in time to make any sense. The latter kingdom was referring to the time when Christ returns and not the first time he came. King Neb was shown and understood in the end that it is God who raises kings and kingdoms, and it also God who subdues them. None of those kingdoms were everlasting, but the one who who smote the image, is of an everlasting kingdom. Christ is not ruling yet. Things have to run it's course first before God sends him back. The kingdoms of man will be given into his hands. He will rule the nations with a rod of iron. His kingdom will be known throughout the whole earth and all will kneel down to him. His laws will be official and all will have to abide. Once they see his power and the judgement of the nations leading up to, and at his reutrn, none can refuse or deny that God chose him to be king. For he is worthy. Matthew 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
  2. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Sorry about that Charlie. It's like this.....when you've walked through a door you find out what's inside. It cuts to the chase. My initial response to you was very lengthy and I was writing it over a couple of days. In the end, I deleted the whole thing because I found that missing key which I had all along, and gave it to you so you could take a peek inside. It saves much time of going back and forth. Whether you can see the same thing inside that room that I can see, we will find out. I am just pointing to where it is exactly.
  3. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Charlie Caps are not a problem at all. You could reply the whole post in caps and I wouldn't get offended. I actually prefer using them myself for emphasis also but cautious not to offend. So now we know that neither of us will get offended, lets go caps when required!!!!!
  4. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Thank you Charlie, I tried to keep it short and sweet! Yes, agreed. The 4th kingdom on the image in Dan Ch2 is not divided, but a solid kingdom of iron. When we come to the feet, it will be divided because it's the iron mixed with clay. Yes. Exactly! Yes. Ok, this is where the book of Revelation will clear this up. Old Rome (the legs of iron) was in power during the days of Christ, and during the days when John wrote the book of Revelation about 70AD. The image in Daniel Ch2 only shows only the dominant kingdoms starting from Babylon, but there were 2 before it - Egypt and Assyria. So five kingdoms on the image, plus 2 before it = 7 kingdoms in total. The total of 7 kingdoms represents the 7 heads in the book of Revelation because we are now including the extra 2 before Babylon. Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 1. EGTPT - 2. ASSYRIA - 3. BABYLON - 4. MEDO/PERSIA/ - 5. GRECIA - 6. ROME. 7. NOT YET COME (REFORMED ROME) Reformed Rome not yet come during the days of this prophecy, so feet of Iron and Clay not yet come, nor the toes. Old Rome was there in power, not yet reformed. Feet of iron and clay are here now - but not quite reached the stage of the 10 toes when they are given power. When did the Feet or iron and clay start? I don't know. It could be when the British Empire rose up as they controlled many territories throughout the world. Is Rome hiding within the British Empire using that as their cover? I don't have all the answers, just questions.
  5. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Charlie Nice to speak to you again. I am waiting for you to really delve into the book Revelation, then hopefully you will see how it holds the key for understanding Daniel on a deeper level regarding the timing of these kingdoms. The book of Revelation can not be omitted in this conversation because it ties up everything nicely. You said there is only 4 kingdoms not 5. It depends on what chapter in Daniel we are speaking about. The image in Dan Ch2 has 5 kingdoms starting from Babylon. 1. the head of gold 2. the arms and chest of silver 3. the belly and thighs of Brass 4. the legs of iron 5. the feet and toes of iron and clay. Kingdom no. 5 goes through a change, because it doesn't consist of just iron now, but mixed with clay. The iron is of Rome, and the clay of other nations. They mingle, but they don't stick (agree). I call this kingdom reformed Rome, because I don't know what other name to give it, and this is the end time kingdom who will be ruling when Christ returns. The other 2 kingdoms before it, Egypt and Assyria are not mentioned because they had already come and gone. I am aware that you are not convinced of this through our earlier conversations, but please keep in mind, because we will need it later. Daniel chapter 7 mentions 4 great beasts. There have been other kingdoms throughout history, but these 4 GREAT beasts get a mention. As I have said to you in the past, the first 3 great beasts are mentioning only the KINGS of the kingdoms which were to come after Babylon. The nature of these first 3 kings are like a lion, a bear, and a leopard. I explained to Marilyn quite a few times over the years who the first 3 kings represented, and provided proof, because the answer or interpretation is not in history books which we cannot rely on 100%, but in the scriptures of Daniel going here and there throughout the chapters. Marilyn did not address the proof I provided, nor did Stormy Monday who seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth. If we go wrong here, the whole interpretation of the kingdoms and their order in the grand scheme of things and time will get muddled up and anyone can slot anything where ever they think it goes, giving an interpretation of error. The 4th great terrible beast in Dan Ch7 doesn't mention all the emperors of Rome, but skips time until we get to this end time reformed Rome when it's days are coming to an end. It does mention a king, and the timing of when he arises, and he is called 'the little horn', which arises during the kingdom's end coming out of the 10 toes. This is where we need the book of Revelation. For this kingdom of the 10 toes and this little horn will rule for only 3.5yrs, and then the end will come. He cannot be put into the past for he is yet to come. The book of Revelation reveals who God calls this little horn, and he calls him the False Prophet. In 2Thessalonians ch2, he is called the man of sin, and the Son of Perdition. It's all the same man, another king who is more fierce than all his predecessors.
  6. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Marilyn Daniel 2:33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay. Daniel 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. The legs of iron was Rome. The old Rome finished at the legs. The next kingdom starts at the feet and finishes at the toes. It has iron in it. It's a reformed Rome, .....not the same as before but different. The fourth beast is specifically mentioning this reformed Rome, because the 10 toes come out of the new (the feet), not the old (the legs). The British Empire, and the USA came up out of the feet and is working with the new reformed Rome. There are other nations working with them also. This is a confederate kingdom and ruling today. We are coming to the toes. When the 10 toes are given power to rule as kings, the false prophet will come out of them. The 10 kings and the FP will rule for only 3.5 yrs, then their end comes.
  7. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Marilyn Not sure what you are trying to say here? The writing on the wall is showing that the kingdom of Babylon was coming to an end. That same night, right after this, whilst they were still drinking and making merry, it happened just like the writing said, and the kingdom was taken over by Darius of the Mede's. Darius was the one who conquered Babylon aged 62 yrs old. The Persians would soon join them. Therefore the kingdom of Babylon was conquered and given over to the Mede's and Persians to rule over the earth...... by God's command, because he is the one who raises and subdues kings. This is the kingdom that followed Babylon, that came after the head of Gold. The kingdom of Rome had not yet formed, because the Kingdom of Grecia has to come next. These scriptures have nothing to do with a reformed Rome, so not sure why you quoted these scriptures? And just a note, something that I realised....v29 - Belshazzar wanted to make Daniel the 3rd ruler in the kingdom of Babylon. So Belshazzar must of been Nebuchadnezzer's son, not grandson, and Daniel would of been the 3rd ruler of this kingdom if Babylon were allowed to continue. Babylon only ruled for 70 years. Daniel 5:25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. Daniel 5:26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. Daniel 5:27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. Daniel 5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. Daniel 5:29 Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom. Daniel 5:30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. Daniel 5:31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
  8. Sister

    Daniel 7

    The image in Dan ch2 symbolises those ruling kingdoms from Babylon to the end (2nd Coming) When you get to the feet mixed with iron and clay, this is that last reformed kingdom. When this last reformed kingdom is coming to it's end, you have the 10 toes. During the days of these 10 toes, Christ will return. These 10 toes will rule as kings as additional information is given in the book of Revelation which reveals that these are indeed 10 kings who will be given power to rule ONE HOUR with the beast. ONE HOUR is 3 1/2 years (42 months) Keep that in mind. The Son of Perdition who will arise, (FP) is a man with a big mouth speaking great things comes out of those 10 kings at the end of time (that part of the kingdom when it's coming to it end - it ends with the 10 toes) During their days (10 kings/10 toes) there are other kingdoms and nations existing (beasts) who do not agree with them, nor wish to serve them any more. These kingdoms will all start warring the beast, and other kingdoms will start turning on each other. You see the iron and clay doesn't stick in the end. So when Christ returns, he will smash the whole image by striking the feet (10 kings), and the whole system of men ruling will become rubble. Not a trace of their ways or system will be left. They will not be remembered or admired as great kingdoms. So the rest of these beasts who had their dominion taken away, are the nations of the world. When Christ returns, and carries out judgement these nations will still exist, but they will have no power to rule, because Christs kingdom will be ruling ON EARTH over men. Law and order will be restored, but with righteousness this time. These other beasts will exist for another 1000 years until the Gog and Magog war is over, then the earth will be just one kingdom, and all will be one.
  9. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Marilyn Yes that's obvious what Stormy pointed out because the scriptures say so! I agree, that these kingdoms come after Babylon. It all ties in together,....., the image in Dan 2, with the vision and interpretation in Dan 8 concerning the ram (Medo/Persia), and the he goat (Alexander/Grecia). All this was fulfilled before Rome formed. The British empire arose after Rome crumbled, thus into the future. Great Britain can't be slotted in before the kingdoms of Medo/Persia and Grecia because they did not yet exist. The vision of the 4 beasts was what was to come directly after Babylon. The first two beasts refer to the kings of Medo and Persia. They combined to become one empire. Alexander of the Grecians was mentioned next. This all ties in to the image of Dan 2. Rome came next, but Rome changed. It weakened, crumbled, then reformed into a new type of Rome mixed with other nations. The nations are conglomerate, all working together to form the New World Order. Islamic countries working together with them also, all in the club, but they will separate and the Islamic countries will form alliances and become the kings of the East, going against the agenda they were once part of, and will stand up against this modern Rome, the kings of the North. This will start the 3rd world war AFTER the Mark of the Beast is issued, at the 6th trump.
  10. Sister

    Daniel 7

    Hi Marilyn The prophesy came during the days that Babylon was ruling. The kings to come were directly after Babylon. The British Empire did not exist then. You are putting the past way into the future. After the Lion (Darius the Mede), the Bear is mention (4th King of Persia) the last Persian king ruling with the Mede's at the time of their end. The next King to come after them was Alexander of the Grecians. Daniel 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. Alexander's Kingdom of Greece was divided by his four generals after his death. Much later, out of one of them, but not in Greece's power,.... out of one of the 4 territories, Rome formed after this. The British Empire came after Rome collapsed. Rome ended where the legs finished. The feet of iron mixed with clay would be where The British Empire would exist, and not where the Arms and breasts of silver stand on the Dan 2 image. All has to harmonise nicely so that we can say these scriptures are true, and not a muddled up mess.
  11. Stormy You are asking me to doubt my KJV. I've said this many times before that God's hand was on the translation process of the KJV so we can read the Word of God today, new and old testaments. He picked King James, not because he was a righteous king, but because of his authority and finances to have these scriptures translated and go out to the gentiles. He did not chose an Israel Rabbi to send out the gospel with the OT, or the Arabs, or anyone else, but chose the king of England and ordained it to be translated into English knowing it would be the most common language of the world. God chose his words exactly, and those 70 or so interpreters would of been chosen by him too, so that we could just pick up and find the truth. We do not have to learn ancient Hebrew and Arabic or Syriac to find the truth, but it's for anyone who is simple to read and come to the knowledge of truth. There is only one translation that is always attacked and that is the KJV. This should tell us something. So what you are saying means nothing to me. I just pick up and read, and if I don't understand an English word, I just look it up in an English dictionary. Trust. Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
  12. The kingdoms with their metals have a flow to it. I explained above. To me it doesn't matter, but you got the order wrong with the kingdoms. Please look into Daniel Ch 8 which gives the interpretation. Daniel 8:3 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last. The ram = Medo/Persia having two horns (2 kings). The higher horn is the last king of Persia, the 4th king which came up last. I showed you the scripture in your other post about the bear with the 3 ribs in it's mouth (Dan 7:5) and the scripture where this 4th king of Persia was richer than them all (Dan 11:2). This is all related to find the interpretation, so your order of kingdoms was wrong, The ram is one beast, with 2 horns (2 kings), a combined kingdom called Medo/Persia and the ram is the one who stirred up the king of Grecia the he goat. The Medo/Persian empire ended at the same time - conquered, gone, history. The Ram is finished. Greecia takes over. This is not end times but all in the past, and the order of kingdoms you listed is wrong according to scripture. The ram is the arms and breast of silver on the image in Dan Ch2. It harmonises. Daniel 8:4 I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great. Daniel 8:5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. Daniel 8:6 And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
  13. I am not talking about the KJV being an interpretation, but the other scriptures that harmonise with what is being said often interprets the meanings. ie, does it back up a matter or contradict it. A false translation will be full of contradictions if you look carefully. It won't flow, but becomes a stumbling block and causes error. I gave you an example that King Neb BUILT Babylon, and the Mede's conquered what was already there. Of course the Mede's existed as a kingdom prior to this, but not a ruling kingdom having greater dominion until they took Babylon.
  14. True it's about the kingdoms, but God mentioned the metals also did he not? Why would he mention them if it wasn't important? Gold is the most precious metal of them all, but is soft. Silver is less precious but stronger, therefore inferior to gold. ....and so it goes until you get to the iron which is the strongest, but less precious.
  15. Is silver inferior to gold? It may be stronger but not as precious. Daniel 2:39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. God said that after Babylon, the next kingdom would be inferior to his. What you are quarreling about is the interpretation of the KJV. That's fine, because the scriptures will interpret themselves. Daniel 4:30 The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty? Who built Babylon? King Neb. Who conquered it? The Medes. Who was the greater one? The one who built it, or the one that conquered what already existed? I say the scriptures in the KJV are true, and I don't doubt one word, therefore I trust what is written, because it interprets itself.
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