The Sabbath IS one particular Day

[tsth]

For those who believe that the Sabbath is not Sunday or a particular day, and that the Sabbath is ANY DAY, what is your exegesis of this passage:

Matthew 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Then I would also as a side note ask: "Can prayer change a preordained day of judgment in the last days?"

Anxiously awaiting your interpretations.........(you know who you are. )

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Arthur Durnan]

Correct & of course, Matthew 24 in context is referring to Israel & not the Church. The Jewish Seventh-day Sabbath pertains to the nation of Israel alone. The Christian believers' new day of resurrection & rejoicing - besides being EVERY day of the week! - is now Sunday, the Lord's Day.

Both the sabbath and circumcision were Jehovah's special I.D. marks with respect to His earthly people, Israel.

GOD BLESS ISRAEL AND KEEP HER STRONG! (AND LIFT THE BLINKERS TOO)

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[tsth]

This was not just to the Jewish in that time. This was in answer to the disciples asking, "When will the time be?"

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Now, what did He mean by the Sabbath? Why did Jesus say to "PRAY" about the particular time to not be set for the winter?

Matthew 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

(So, you are saying that this statement was not "literal"???)

Surely not?

I still would like to see exegesis rather than opinion on this passage, using Scriptures and word meanings. Looking forward to your studies.

In His Truth,

Suzanne

Edited February 8, 2005 by tsth

[Guest yod]

Matthew 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

All I have time for is opinion...but you know I have one!!

This doesn't necessarily mean that an event would happen in the winter or on a Sabbath day...but rather is saying that there will be a small window of time to escape and they (we?) should be prepared to go before the last minute.

At least, that's the way I see it....

[tsth]

Matthew 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

All I have time for is opinion...but you know I have one!!

This doesn't necessarily mean that an event would happen in the winter or on a Sabbath day...but rather is saying that there will be a small window of time to escape and they (we?) should be prepared to go before the last minute.

At least, that's the way I see it....

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And my question is, why wouldn't you believe that this is EXACTLY what He is saying, since it IS EXACTLY what He is saying?

Unless you can show to me Scripturally that there is another meaning, I would take His Word EXACTLY as He spoke It, why wouldn't we? I just don't think it's a mystery. It sounds very clear and absolute.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest hubertdorm]

That begins the period of great distress. We should notice what is being said here

Matthew 24:26 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

v. 17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.

v. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.

v. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!

The urgency by Jesus cannot be overlooked. He is literally telling anyone in Judea to get out of Dodge! The Sabbath is supposed to be a day of rest (not even a church day!) How horrible it would be to be sitting on the deck drinking Country Time lemonade, to suddenly have to run like mad as far away as you can get. So, I don't see that the Sabbath HAS to be a particular day, but that those in Judea should pray they don't have to flee on that day.

[Guest hubertdorm]

Having to flee during the winter w/o time to pack any clothes? You can see why it is dreadful for pregnant mothers. Jesus is basically saying to leave with the clothes on your back and baby in your womb. Don't mess around trying to pack food and more clothes

[Dad Ernie]

For those who believe that the Sabbath is not Sunday or a particular day, and that the Sabbath is ANY DAY, what is your exegesis of this passage:

Matthew 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Then I would also as a side note ask:  "Can prayer change a preordained day of judgment in the last days?"

I liked Yod's answer, and yet I would have expected him to answer with a bias, but he didn't. That speaks well for him.

Also in connection with what others have said, can you imagine waiting until the last moment before "getting out of Dodge"? If it were on the Sabbath, those who maintain Jewish custom would not be able to leave - right? Also if it were winter, it would make it most difficult. I see these verses connected with the verses in Revelation when the saints are "called out" of Babylon. If you wait too long, it may be too late.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[tsth]

So in context of your reasoning, that the Sabbath can be ANY day.........then, in your understanding, the text is basically saying, "Pray that your flight is NOT ON ANY DAY AT ALL? Do you believe that these things of the end will even happen at all? That is really your understanding of these Words?

I really cannot understand how something so direct, is being twisted into whatever we choose to want it to be?

So if Jesus said this to you today, would you really interpret it as anything else other than what He actually said, or would you try to reason that He meant something else?

In His Love,

Suzanne

[tsth]

Having to flee during the winter w/o time to pack any clothes? You can see why it is dreadful for pregnant mothers. Jesus is basically saying to leave with the clothes on your back and baby in your womb. Don't mess around trying to pack food and more clothes

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Yes, I agree hubertdorm. My focus is on the fact that even Jesus Himself refers to the Sabbath as a specific day in His instruction to the disciples. The question is directed at the fact that we do not observe the Sabbath as a specific day anymore, yet it is referred to as one specific day by Jesus.

In His Love,

Suzanne