BobRyan Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 711 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, shiloh357 said: None of us, in our right minds, eat diseased beef, so that is kind of a non-starter. Indeed you would "think" that a prohibition against eating diseased beef and eating rats - would not get so much opposition ... just because it is in Lev 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRyan Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 711 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Absolem said: You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. Galatians 5:4 If the argument is that anyone who honors God's Word in Lev 11 regarding not eating diseased beef and/or rats --- is falling from Grace and alienated from Christ - then I suggest a more careful review of the New Covenant is in order. God says in Lev 11 not to eat rats, cats, dogs, bats --- and of course some people will object. But that is no reason to argue that avoiding such things -- is "falling from grace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Yowm said: How long will diseased beef keep coming up? lol Drink a cup of vinegar or maybe warm salt water to get it to come up - it is not good if it stays down ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRyan Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 711 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Yowm said: I didn't see anything about 'no pork' in Acts 15. (How long will diseased beef keep coming up? lol) The prohibition comes from Lev 11. Hence the title of the thread and that is the chapter that tells us that diseased beef and rats are not fit for food. As much as some have strongly objected -- that is what scripture says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, Yowm said: Absolem simply quoted Gal 5:4, it was directed at anyone specifically. The last year or longer, that has been done a lot, and I've seen NO ONE who has ever shown ANYONE who was trying to be justified by keeping all the law, ever, so far. On this forum or others. I think I saw one or two posters somewhere who claimed they were with God before they were born on earth, and they were like one of the two witnesses or something like that, and they claimed they were sinless, but other than a couple extremes like that neither you nor Absolem nor anyone else has ever shown that someone was trying to be justified by keeping the whole law, or more importantly also, not by faith. Y'all seem to miss that keeping the law is a good thing, TORAH is PERFECT and good when used as YHWH meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, BobRyan said: Indeed you would "think" that a prohibition against eating diseased beef and eating rats - would not get so much opposition ... just because it is in Lev 11. Sure and truth, but remember that in today's society msg is actually packaged and sold as a 'flavor', in the grocery store, for men, women, parents, and (presumably) children and babies also. Likewise many disease causing ingredients freeliy given in abundance to almost anyone by their own family, causing much illness, death and troubles. (not to mention, or rather let's mention, yes, all the sheer profit to the food and drink industry, and many many times more to the sickness industry/drug lords) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolem Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 433 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 225 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/25/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/24/1990 Share Posted June 6, 2017 34 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Quote anyone who posted , quote their post, who is trying at all to be justified by the law . Also, in the country, city, country you live in , do you obey the law (of the gov/authorities) ? If so, why ? Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them that are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRyan Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 711 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, Yowm said: I didn't see anything about 'no pork' in Acts 15. (How long will diseased beef keep coming up? lol) The prohibition comes from Lev 11. Hence the title of the thread and that is the chapter that tells us that diseased beef and rats are not fit for food. As much as some have strongly objected -- that is what scripture says. 3 minutes ago, Yowm said: Have you kept up with your offerings of lambs, rams, and bullocks too? And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, have you kept up with Hebrews 10:4-12 telling us that the sacrifices have ended? In the mean time few of us would be "disappointed" that scripture says not to eat diseased beef and rats in Lev 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRyan Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 711 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Absolem said: Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them that are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Indeed that LAW of God applies to the whole world. So then in Rom 3:31 we have this as the conclusion "What do we make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid!! In fact we establish the Law of God" (Give me the Bible - AND the Words IN the Bible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted June 6, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: Or were you just 'kidding' with question #1? Not at all. See the answer in the BIBLE. (look specifically for the words "justify", "justified", "justification" in every occurence - from your posts, when / if YHWH allows you to see it not just as a parable, but as He means it for His disciples, it will be a great surprise (and WONDERFUL!) for you) He Delights to do this: " Then opened HE their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures," WHEN He Does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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