Floatingaxe Posted February 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, thereselittleflower said: That's not true. Yes, it is true, as following Jesus is not a religion. Anything calling itself a religion is simply a man-made belief system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said: I didn't say it was. I am talking about individuals. Just as most Catholics are not born again (meaning some are but remain in the RCC out of tradition) there may be some Rastafarians who are born again (meaning most are not) but remain Rastafarian out of tradition (it is the national custom, is it not?). Only GOD know for sure, we cannot judge all with a wide brush. This where I would question you, about most Catholics . Most are saved , more so than many who say they are 'born again', if their fruits are anything to go by . I am afraid there is huge ignorance among many 'evengelicals ',and arrogance too, about who is not and who is saved . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Floatingaxe said: If anything is called a "religion", it is not of Christ. Not so . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm not going to debate the RCC and that is not what this discussion is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.08 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Thallasa said: This where I would question you, about most Catholics . Most are saved , more so than many who say they are 'born again', if their fruits are anything to go by . I am afraid there is huge ignorance among many 'evengelicals ',and arrogance too, about who is not and who is saved . I agree. Just like the Pope, we are not authorized by God to determine another's salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted February 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2016 15 minutes ago, Thallasa said: Not so . You'll need to prove that. Jesus Himself spoke out against the religious. We know that knowing Jesus involves us in an intimate relationship, a family tie, as God is all about family. So, religion just doesn't fit in...and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, Floatingaxe said: You'll need to prove that. Jesus Himself spoke out against the religious. We know that knowing Jesus involves us in an intimate relationship, a family tie, as God is all about family. So, religion just doesn't fit in...and rightly so. Jas. 1:27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted February 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, Teditis said: Jas. 1:27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." Yes, that is pertaining to a righteous behaviour, but Christianity is no religion, and don't let anyone fool you that it is. It is a Father-child, intimate family relationship we have with God through faith in Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Floatingaxe said: Yes, that is pertaining to a righteous behaviour, but Christianity is no religion, and don't let anyone fool you that it is. It is a Father-child, intimate family relationship we have with God through faith in Jesus Christ. Though I understand your point, I think that it's a semantical issue and which definition of the word someone is using. I'm not offended when someone use the word in referring to Christianity... though I'm saddened when they think that one religion is in essence the same as any other. Likewise, Rasta and Christianity are "Abrahamic religions" but they are far more different than similar... though they both believe in the Trinity, Rastas believe that some 1930's, Ethiopian emperor was Jesus returned to earth for some further revelation that includes how the current Bible has been corrupted and then gave information about how to seek God "properly". So in short.... in the context of comparative analysis between two or more beliefs in God I find that the word "religion" helps move the conversation along. However, in concept, like you... I see Christianity as a relational life-style between God and mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Rick_Parker said: I didn't say it was. I am talking about individuals. Just as most Catholics are not born again (meaning some are but remain in the RCC out of tradition) there may be some Rastafarians who are born again (meaning most are not) but remain Rastafarian out of tradition (it is the national custom, is it not?). Only GOD know for sure, we cannot judge all with a wide brush. I would not presume to judge if most of any group that names the name of Christ are not born again. That is a highly presumptuous thing to do and requires one knows the depths of another's heart. If the religion you're asking about doesn't even believe in Christ, then what is different about asking about the Rasatafarians as opposed to the Buddhists or the Hindus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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