Ogner Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, LeavesSeeds said: Your OP wasn't identified as addressing only Christians. See> Jesus addressed HIS DISCIPLES telling them what to do. Not the world. (1) no , is concerning your OP question. NOT Christians. (2) n/a , likewise. Christians do what Jesus says. That's simple. The world and the carnal do not do what Jesus says. They may very often pretend to, but they are not subjects of Jesus. I'm a Christian. I'm on a "Worthy christian forums" asked questions to Christians. Don't you know that by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeavesSeeds Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2016 No. Just now, Ogner said: I'm a Christian. I'm on a "Worthy christian forums" asked questions to Christians. Don't you know that by now? How many gave up everything to be Jesus disciple ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted June 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, LeavesSeeds said: You neglected to pay attention. No I was paying attention, to you avoid posting a single piece of scripture-in fact you still havent. So, go ahead. post scripture. Otherwise im going to assume you dont have any and move on to more important things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeavesSeeds Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2016 bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,247 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,658 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2016 I take this to mean that we are go first to our home town, our family and friends, the missions, door to door or however you are led. Jerusalem was the home of the first church and was the center of Christianity for a few decades. Then we should go to neighboring downs, until we reach out to other countries and cultures. But if you are called to go to Jerusalem, by all means go. Our pastor and church members always witness when they take tours of the Holy Land. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Willa said: I take this to mean that we are go first to our home town, our family and friends, the missions, door to door or however you are led. Jerusalem was the home of the first church and was the center of Christianity for a few decades. Then we should go to neighboring downs, until we reach out to other countries and cultures. But if you are called to go to Jerusalem, by all means go. Our pastor and church members always witness when they take tours of the Holy Land. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. You answered the first question. What about the second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 49 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said: I think it depends on who you called-Jesus said go into all the world, that would include Israel. If your called to go to Israel, then thats where you go. if your not, then you don't. Its as simple as that. I would not waste to much time with leaves until he can provide a straight answer. Do you agree with what there is no salvation apart from personal faith in Jesus Christ as Lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Ogner said: Mark 6:7-11, And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse: But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats. And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. Matthew 10:6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." 1) Should we go to towns of Israel and preach the Gospel to the jews, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand? 2) If whosoever shall not receive us, nor hear us, when we depart thence. Should we shake the dust off feet as a testimony against them? 1) To go to another country to preach the gospel, is essentially being a missionary which requires a definite calling. Israel in particular can be a difficult country. To share the gospel in Israel requires knowledge of Hebrew, and an understanding of the laws and culture. Also, preaching that the kingdom of heaven is at hand worked in Jesus time as the culture of Israel was expecting the Messiah to come very soon. They could look at Jesus and hear what He said and was doing to compare Him to the Messianic prophesies. Today, the culture does not view the Messiah as imminent and most know nothing about Jesus/Yeshua, so to share the gospel means to explain that Jesus was Jewish, and fulfilled some of the prophesies, etc. Today, sharing the gospel with a Jewish person is not a one shot proclamation but rather a study of the NT, a bit at a time, and comparing it to the OT. From start to finish, it can take a 1 year process for each person. If a Jewish person does come to believe in Yeshua, there is often a backlash of friends and family, so after leading a Jewish person to the Lord, it takes standing with them, and helping them. Again, it is not a one shot wonder but a long term commitment. 2) That takes some discernment to no if they will not receive you. When dealing with Jewish culture, culturally, many Jewish people feel obligated to rebuff a person who comes to share the gospel. So, sometimes, while a Jewish person might be interested and drawn, they feel like they must reject rather rudely, but if they are being drawn, they will return to ask more questions, and then once again rudely and strongly reject, only to return again to ask more questions, etc. etc. etc. I will also say, people like George live in Israel. Missions groups dedicated to sharing the gospel with the Jewish people are in Israel speaking to the Jewish people. (At this time, there is interest). Most of the missions are struggling as few Christians are donating. Especially since churches are divesting from Israel, growing anti-semitism in the churches, groups which discourage sharing the gospel with the Jewish people like Hagee's group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted June 2, 2016 28 minutes ago, Ogner said: Do you agree with what there is no salvation apart from personal faith in Jesus Christ as Lord? I think, what the Bible says on that matter is pretty black and white. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted June 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,859 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,763 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Qnts2 said: 1) To go to another country to preach the gospel, is essentially being a missionary which requires a definite calling. Israel in particular can be a difficult country. To share the gospel in Israel requires knowledge of Hebrew, and an understanding of the laws and culture. Also, preaching that the kingdom of heaven is at hand worked in Jesus time as the culture of Israel was expecting the Messiah to come very soon. They could look at Jesus and hear what He said and was doing to compare Him to the Messianic prophesies. Today, the culture does not view the Messiah as imminent and most know nothing about Jesus/Yeshua, so to share the gospel means to explain that Jesus was Jewish, and fulfilled some of the prophesies, etc. Today, sharing the gospel with a Jewish person is not a one shot proclamation but rather a study of the NT, a bit at a time, and comparing it to the OT. From start to finish, it can take a 1 year process for each person. If a Jewish person does come to believe in Yeshua, there is often a backlash of friends and family, so after leading a Jewish person to the Lord, it takes standing with them, and helping them. Again, it is not a one shot wonder but a long term commitment. 2) That takes some discernment to no if they will not receive you. When dealing with Jewish culture, culturally, many Jewish people feel obligated to rebuff a person who comes to share the gospel. So, sometimes, while a Jewish person might be interested and drawn, they feel like they must reject rather rudely, but if they are being drawn, they will return to ask more questions, and then once again rudely and strongly reject, only to return again to ask more questions, etc. etc. etc. I will also say, people like George live in Israel. Missions groups dedicated to sharing the gospel with the Jewish people are in Israel speaking to the Jewish people. (At this time, there is interest). Most of the missions are struggling as few Christians are donating. Especially since churches are divesting from Israel, growing anti-semitism in the churches, groups which discourage sharing the gospel with the Jewish people like Hagee's group. I am impress !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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