GoldenEagle Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Thallasa said: Goodbye . I have been harrased twice in the lst two days for very civilly saying I do not believe in SSM ,and now you . Hiya Thallas! No idea what SSM is... But I don't think anyone is harassing anyone else on the thread. Could you clarify? God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, GoldenEagle said: The word “openly” to me is problematic. But in effect the word “openly” takes us into an entirely different arena. I can imagine people being baptized with all sorts of moral issues, past failures, and even current struggles. We are all broken and in need of redemption through Jesus. If we wait to baptize perfect people, we’ll never baptize anyone. That said, local churches that oppose the homosexual lifestyle will have to deal with it in their midst. Sometimes even among their leaders. This is simply stating an obvious fact. Sin happens and sin, by its very nature, is deceptive. Adultery, gossip, corruption, pride, abusers, etc. happens in churches all over the world. This is not an isolated occurrence in the USA, Brazil, or any other country. It is true that the attitude of the heart matters a great deal. But since only God knows the thoughts and intents of the heart, we are left with words and deeds. Even there we can be fooled. But in this case, no one is trying to fool anyone. A person who is “openly” homosexual could be argued to be lacking in repentance, and yet repentance is clearly the prerequisite for baptism (see for example Acts 2:38). What do you guys think? God bless GE I agree if someone is not repentant, and is openly disregarding scripture, only I see this as more than just the one sin. Some churches are thoroughly confusing people by accepting the lifestyle, even in the leadership. When I was baptized, nobody tried asking me if every sin was behind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2016 Some Churches such as the Unity Church are twisting around Scripture and telling their congregation that it is ok to be a homosexual and be a Christian. They are wrong. They are false preachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, Baptism is for believers. One cannot be openly gay and be a genuine, New Testament follower of Christ. Interesting I think I would tend to say that Scripture supports this. What passages in the Bible are you referring to brother? God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Some Churches such as the Unity Church are twisting around Scripture and telling their congregation that it is ok to be a homosexual and be a Christian. They are wrong. They are false preachers. What Biblical passages do they base these teachings on? Why are they wrong? God bless GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 56 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, Baptism is for believers. One cannot be openly gay and be a genuine, New Testament follower of Christ. Thank you Shiloh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, GoldenEagle said: What Biblical passages do they base these teachings on? Why are they wrong? God bless GE Ask someone who attends the Unity Church. Born again Christians know why they are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2016 Blessings Golden Eagle Hi Brother,I always enjoy your Topics,,,,,,,This my be a stupid question but I) wish to clarify something before I res pond,,,,,,What are you referring to when you say "Baptism"? Are you talking about the Baptism by the Holy Spirit or Water Baptism?I was under the assumption that you are talking about a water Baptism,an outward public proclamation & because it is so often 'public" is why the question was posed t o begin with,,,,,,will you clarify please? I will put my little 2 cents in though,,,,,,if by "Baptism" you are talking about being baptized in the Holy Spirit,the indwelling,,,then I would think "yes",we receive Jesus,He comes to live in us when we come to Believe & ask forgiveness(confession),,,,,,so,if y our asking if a homosexual should come to Christ as they are to Receive Him,,,,yes,of course Nobody has t o do their laundry before they bring the ir clothes to the laundrymat -lol Now,if you mean "Water Baptizing"after one is supposed to be Saved,,,,,,no,why are they not repentant? Just my take With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, Thallasa said: Thank you Shiloh . So what is so different what Shiloh said and what we already said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, kwikphilly said: Blessings Golden Eagle Hi Brother,I always enjoy your Topics,,,,,,,This my be a stupid question but I) wish to clarify something before I res pond,,,,,,What are you referring to when you say "Baptism"? Are you talking about the Baptism by the Holy Spirit or Water Baptism?I was under the assumption that you are talking about a water Baptism,an outward public proclamation & because it is so often 'public" is why the question was posed t o begin with,,,,,,will you clarify please? I will put my little 2 cents in though,,,,,,if by "Baptism" you are talking about being baptized in the Holy Spirit,the indwelling,,,then I would think "yes",we receive Jesus,He comes to live in us when we come to Believe & ask forgiveness(confession),,,,,,so,if y our asking if a homosexual should come to Christ as they are to Receive Him,,,,yes,of course Nobody has t o do their laundry before they bring the ir clothes to the laundrymat -lol Now,if you mean "Water Baptizing"after one is supposed to be Saved,,,,,,no,why are they not repentant? Just my take With love-in Christ,Kwik If a homosexual genuinely comes to Jesus Christ and wants to be a born again believer they would have to leave their homosexual life behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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