HisFirst Posted December 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 On 07/12/2016 at 3:45 PM, delade3 said: Could you provide an example of how the bending of The Word of God is pressured in Science? Not the best wording I have to admit sorry but what I was trying to say is, is there a certain amount of compromising of ones Christian belief to work in the field of science. Thinking back to my year 9 science teacher, he was so hardcore evolutionist, that he'd make you feel like a speck if you had thoughts otherwise regarding the beginnings of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted February 21, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 315 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1959 Share Posted February 21, 2017 On 11/25/2016 at 9:05 PM, HisFirst said: Can you be part of the scientific community without compromising your Christianity? I know there are many scientists who are Christians but there must be huge pressure from within the scientific field to bend ones belief system..? You can because the things of this world are scientific but the things of God are Spirit. The things of the this world are given in Spirit form in Gods word which are Spirit. Scientific people are so cool to try to figure out Gods creation. For instance they have models of creation of our solar system but they leave out dwarf stars ? let alone other stars. The problem with some of them they believe not in God so their knowledge stops their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, ezekiel said: For instance they have models of creation of our solar system but they leave out dwarf stars ? let alone other stars. Our Solar System has just one star, the sun. Do you mean the Milky Way Galaxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted February 22, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 315 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1959 Share Posted February 22, 2017 13 hours ago, OneLight said: Our Solar System has just one star, the sun. Do you mean the Milky Way Galaxy? They are three dwarf stars besides our sun. One on our plain the east, another on a south orbit, both of these come into the inner court after so many thousands of years, the third in the outer court at about 100 plus AU. Are you a astrophysics OneLight that you may understand the reaction when they enter the inner court at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted February 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted February 22, 2017 19 hours ago, ezekiel said: You can because the things of this world are scientific but the things of God are Spirit. The things of the this world are given in Spirit form in Gods word which are Spirit. Scientific people are so cool to try to figure out Gods creation. For instance they have models of creation of our solar system but they leave out dwarf stars ? let alone other stars. The problem with some of them they believe not in God so their knowledge stops their. The things of God are scientific too. God created the physical world too. Science is based on observation and experiment and God gave us eyes to see and brains to think with. Take 'Evolution' for example. It's simply not scientific. It can't be tested, it can't be repeated and it can't be observed. It's based on Atheistic theories that have little basis in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 23, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/21/2017 at 5:31 PM, ezekiel said: You can because the things of this world are scientific but the things of God are Spirit. The things of the this world are given in Spirit form in Gods word which are Spirit. Say again? Things of this World are Scientific? Scientific = The Scientific Method; so the things of this world are The Scientific Method? Didn't God give us HIS CREATION --is Creation Spirit? Quote Scientific people are so cool to try to figure out Gods creation. How can the 'Scientific' people figure out God's Creation... if Creation is Spirit? Quote For instance they have models... 1. Who are 'They' ? 2. "A model is used for situations when it is known that the hypothesis has a limitation on its validity." http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/a/hypothesis.htm Allow me to translate: Pseudo-Science !! ... There is no such animal as a Scientific Hypothesis with 'limited validity' it's tantamount to a woman being *'A Little' Pregnant!!* REAL Scientific Hypotheses are either CONFIRMED or INVALIDATED, PERIOD...End of Story!! Scientific Hypotheses do not exist in PERPETUITY or wait for more DATA. A "Model" is conjured when the 'alleged' Hypothesis is UN-TESTABLE!!! That means, there never was an 'ACTUAL' Scientific Hypothesis to begin with !! Quote For instance they have models of creation of our solar system but they leave out dwarf stars ? 1. What 'SOLAR' System? 2. Stars aren't SUNS and our Sun is not a star... (Genesis 1:14-16) "¶ And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: {15} And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. {16} And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." See the Juxtaposition? Additionally, what is the "FIRMAMENT"? regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonky Posted February 24, 2017 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 6 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 738 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 346 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2017 Stars are Suns if they are the center of a planetary system. Where are you getting your information Enoch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, Bonky said: Stars are Suns if they are the center of a planetary system. Where are you getting your information Enoch? 1. Stars are clearly not "Suns" in Scripture. 2. Stars are NOT Suns in Fairytale cosmology/astronomy either. If you object, please Scientifically Validate... a. Post the Formal Scientific Hypothesis then EXPERIMENT...? b. Highlight the "Independent Variable" used in the TEST...? 3. Scientifically Validate Stars are @ the center of planetary systems...? Moreover, Define Planets...? regards Edited February 25, 2017 by Enoch2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonky Posted February 26, 2017 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 6 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 738 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 346 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Enoch2021 said: 1. Stars are clearly not "Suns" in Scripture. Are you saying that scripture tells us that there are no collection of planets that, due to gravity, orbit a star? If so this is news to me. 7 hours ago, Enoch2021 said: 3. Scientifically Validate Stars are @ the center of planetary systems...? I would think that you're well aware of the geocentric model the Greeks embraced in antiquity and the OBSERVATIONS that kept calling that model into question. I have no idea what experiment you're looking for above and beyond what Galileo, Capernicus, Kepler, Newton et al. has already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 26, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted February 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, Bonky said: Are you saying that scripture tells us that there are no collection of planets Yea. Quote Are you saying that scripture tells us that there are no collection of planets that, due to gravity, orbit a star? Gravity?? Which Gravity ... EinSHtienian or Newtonian ?? A. Is gravity a Force? B. Is 'gravity' a Scientific Law or Scientific Theory? C. What is the CAUSE of 'gravity'...? Quote I would think that you're well aware of the geocentric model the Greeks embraced in antiquity and the OBSERVATIONS that kept calling that model into question. "A model is used for situations when it is known that the hypothesis has a limitation on its validity." http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/a/hypothesis.htm Allow me to translate: Pseudo-Science !! ... There is no such animal as a Scientific Hypothesis with 'limited validity' it's tantamount to a woman being *'A Little' Pregnant!!* REAL Scientific Hypotheses are either CONFIRMED or INVALIDATED, PERIOD...End of Story!! Scientific Hypotheses do not exist in PERPETUITY or wait for more DATA (lol) !!! A "Model" is conjured when the 'alleged' Hypothesis is UN-TESTABLE!!! That means, there never was an 'ACTUAL' Scientific Hypothesis to begin with !! That goes for both Geo and Helio Centric "Models". Quote I have no idea what experiment you're looking for above and beyond what Galileo, Capernicus, Kepler, Newton et al. has already done. Above and Beyond them?? They never performed any Experiments to show that Stars are Suns, for goodness sakes. And nobody else has either. It'd be easier Sprouting Broccoli out of their Armpits. All they have are "Just So" Stories. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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