Guest shiloh357 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, ruck1b said: Exactly...and that's the point. So can you explain what you were talking about previously. The cost of SS to protect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruck1b Posted March 30, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 352 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: How much did it cost to fly Michelle Obama by herself from Hawaii to DC? How much did it cost to protect them on their lavish vacations, and all of the dinner parties they attended with celebrities all over the country? How about when Michelle Obama and her daughters toured foreign countries like Paris with a full entourage of media and consultants and security? They took some pretty lavish vacations all over the world and jetted around the US to fundraiser parties and were treated like rock stars everywhere and much of that was not official government business. I don't remember anyone complaining about the cost of his family play times. Obama was like a 12 year old who liked to ride around on Air Force 1 and he liked all of the perks and the accoutrements of being president, but he didn't really want govern as president. When the job got hard he just went golfing. And right wingers complained about it the whole way. There are probably posts here about it. But good attempt at deflection. Can you show where the Obamas spent over 100k a day on security because they wanted to live in separate places while the children finished out their schooling. If so then you are comparing apples to apples. If not you are reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruck1b Posted March 30, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 352 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: The cost of SS to protect them. You clearly were not informed about the issue though, I'm glad you agree that once she moves back that we wont be paying that money anymore. That is the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, ruck1b said: And right wingers complained about it the whole way. There are probably posts here about it. But good attempt at deflection. Can you show where the Obamas spent over 100k a day on security because they wanted to live in separate places while the children finished out their schooling. If so then you are comparing apples to apples. If not you are reaching. We questioned those expenses, but I am not deflecting. The point is that living as president is always expensive no matter who is in office. We spend an incredible amount on presidents and their families. We have spent untold millions on presidents in the past but only NOW is it suddenly a crime to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, ruck1b said: You clearly were not informed about the issue though, I'm glad you agree that once she moves back that we wont be paying that money anymore. That is the point. Yes we will find a way to spend that money on useless things now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruck1b Posted March 30, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 352 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: We questioned those expenses, but I am not deflecting. The point is that living as president is always expensive no matter who is in office. We spend an incredible amount on presidents and their families. We have spent untold millions on presidents in the past but only NOW is it suddenly a crime to do so. oh yes you are deflecting, but to the point we are paying unneeded expenses. They can stay in the white house and we don't have to be paying over 100k a day. Pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, ruck1b said: oh yes you are deflecting, but to the point No, I am pointing to the fact that how much we spent on other presidents and their families never mattered. Now that it's Trump, suddenly it's an issue. Quote we are paying unneeded expenses. They can stay in the white house and we don't have to be paying over 100k a day. Pretty simple. That isn't money that would not otherwise be spent. It's money the government would have wasted on some useless program or some pointless grant. It's not like they had come up with extra money just for this. The money was going to be spent any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruck1b Posted March 30, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 352 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, I am pointing to the fact that how much we spent on other presidents and their families never mattered. Now that it's Trump, suddenly it's an issue. That isn't money that would not otherwise be spent. It's money the government would have wasted on some useless program or some pointless grant. It's not like they had come up with extra money just for this. The money was going to be spent any way. SMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 30, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2017 It's all much ado about nothing anyway - pennies on the dollar.... making a mountain out of a mole.... a camel out of a gnat ...... 1 hour ago, shiloh357 said: Does the article say that SS agents working Trump Tower get a higher salary than those at the White House? When the family is at the White House, the costs spent AT the White House probably triple or quadruple or more,(from when they are gone), so the costs in NYC or elsewhere might actually be closer than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted March 30, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, ruck1b said: You clearly were not informed about the issue though, I'm glad you agree that once she moves back that we wont be paying that money anymore. That is the point. We are still paying for obamas security. If folks insist that trumps family live in the white house, then they should also insist that obamas family all live in just one house and not the multiple houses they own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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