Marilyn C Posted April 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Yeah, that is not even close... Well....A body that can be injured is not `very good,` dear bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, Marilyn C said: Well....A body that can be injured is not `very good,` dear bro. How about a body that has to eat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: How about a body that has to eat? There are obviously different purposes for eating. Think of the New heavens & new Earth & those in the New Jerusalem, in eternity, can eat of the tree of life with its 12 fruits in each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Marilyn C said: There are obviously different purposes for eating. Think of the New heavens & new Earth & those in the New Jerusalem, in eternity, can eat of the tree of life with its 12 fruits in each season. But we are talking about Adam, not the New Jerusalem. You are trying to make an argument for which you have no solid scriptural platform. Jesus had no sin. That means that the effects of sin did not permeate Jesus' body, or His mind, or His Spirit. There was no sin in Jesus in any shape or form. He was not imperfect at any point and you have NOTHING from scripture that says otherwise. He was a perfect Lamb without spot or wrinkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: But we are talking about Adam, not the New Jerusalem. You are trying to make an argument for which you have no solid scriptural platform. Jesus had no sin. That means that the effects of sin did not permeate Jesus' body, or His mind, or His Spirit. There was no sin in Jesus in any shape or form. He was not imperfect at any point and you have NOTHING from scripture that says otherwise. He was a perfect Lamb without spot or wrinkle. Shiloh, If as you say Jesus had a perfect body then he would NOT have died, (a result of the fall) & He would NOT have been of the human race. I am NOT saying that Jesus had sin because His body was human, of Mary, but it was subject to the consequences - death. `And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. `(Phil. 2: 8) BTW you were talking about `a body that has to eat.` Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, Davida said: LOL! don't mind me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, Marilyn C said: Shiloh, If as you say Jesus had a perfect body then he would NOT have died, (a result of the fall) & He would NOT have been of the human race. Wrong. Adam was 100% human and created perfect. So being sinless doesn't make one less than human. Jesus was the ideal human. Jesus' humanity was what humanity was supposed to be before the fall. Quote I am NOT saying that Jesus had sin because His body was human, of Mary, but it was subject to the consequences - death. I don't really think you know if Jesus was subject to death or not. Jesus made Himself obedient to death on the cross. Jesus died voluntarily which is something we cannot do. Jesus was full control of all of the events surrounding his crucifixion and He died at the very moment He chose and not a minute too soon or a minute too late. Jesus death had nothing to do with any imperfection on His part. It was His sovereign will to die, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Wrong. Adam was 100% human and created perfect. So being sinless doesn't make one less than human. Jesus was the ideal human. Jesus' humanity was what humanity was supposed to be before the fall. I don't really think you know if Jesus was subject to death or not. Jesus made Himself obedient to death on the cross. Jesus died voluntarily which is something we cannot do. Jesus was full control of all of the events surrounding his crucifixion and He died at the very moment He chose and not a minute too soon or a minute too late. Jesus death had nothing to do with any imperfection on His part. It was His sovereign will to die, period. A body that is perfect cannot die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, Marilyn C said: A body that is perfect cannot die. Yet Jesus died and He had a perfect body that was unstained by sin. So, I guess I will go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Yet Jesus died and He had a perfect body that was unstained by sin. So, I guess I will go with that. So Shiloh you seem to believe that the Holy Spirit placed the embryo of Jesus in the womb of Mary. So how was the Lord of the human race? BTW I never said that Jesus was stained by sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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