US Deploys Two More Carrier Groups to be Directed to Korean Penninsula

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, Running Gator said:

I think the term is ridiculous personally.  At this point "right" is determined by "might".   There is no moral high-ground left for any country today.  It is all all about nothing but who has the most power.

I hate to say this but...it has always been that way.  I don't see any countries being 'moral'; just realistic.  In the case of the U.S., might IS right and our government has an obligation to protect us.  I think we have been a better country than most.

[MorningGlory]

25 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

Does the US not feel that it is not bound by  international law?  We invaded countries in violation of international law, we kill people with drones in violation of international law, we lob missiles and drop bombs in countries in violation of international law.  We have combat troops on the ground in Syria against that countries wishes, is that not in violation of international law.

Whoa.  That's a lot of untrue verbage aimed at this country.  The allegations above are right out of the Berkley U. handbook.

[SavedByGrace1981]

1 hour ago, shiloh357 said:

A rogue nation is a nation that doesn't see itself as being bound by international law, and/or poses an international threat or potential threat.   Iran, North Korea, Cuba Libya are examples of what are known as rogue nations

I'm not sure I'd agree with the international law part, since many nations (US, Russia, Britain with the Falkland Islands, etc) have 'skirted' so-called international law and yet would not be considered 'rogue'. 

The international threat though is valid.  So yes, I would agree with Iran and N. Korea being classified that way.  (Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map; and N. Korea goes without saying).  As much as I dislike the governments of Cuba and Libya however, I don't see them posing an existential threat to other nations.  I would not consider them 'rogue.'

Blessings,

-Ed

 

[Running Gator]

1 hour ago, MorningGlory said:

Whoa.  That's a lot of untrue verbage aimed at this country.  The allegations above are right out of the Berkley U. handbook.

Untrue?  Is this a joke?

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We invaded countries in violation of international law

 

I guess you have never heard of Iraq?

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we kill people with drones in violation of international law

Obama ordered more than 500 drone strikes, killing anywhere from 100-200 civilians that were not the targets of the drones.  

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we lob missiles and drop bombs in countries in violation of international law.

Did you miss the 59 cruise missiles fired last week?

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 We have combat troops on the ground in Syria against that country's wishes, is that not in violation of international law.

we have over 500 troops in Syria right now, and they were not invited by the country's government.  

 

So, please tell me what part I said was untrue?

[MorningGlory]

39 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

Untrue?  Is this a joke?

I guess you have never heard of Iraq?

Obama ordered more than 500 drone strikes, killing anywhere from 100-200 civilians that were not the targets of the drones.  

Did you miss the 59 cruise missiles fired last week?

we have over 500 troops in Syria right now, and they were not invited by the country's government.  

 

So, please tell me what part I said was untrue?

All of it.  It's just leftist talking points.  I've heard them all before but I've never seen anyone quote THEMSELVES quite so extensively.

[Running Gator]

4 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

All of it.  It's just leftist talking points.  I've heard them all before.

So, you don't think we invaded Iraq and overthrew the govenment

[MorningGlory]

5 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

So, you don't think we invaded Iraq and overthrew the govenment

No.  We liberated Iraq and the 'government', i.e., Saddam Hussein, ran for his life like the coward he was. 

[Running Gator]

2 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

No.  We liberated Iraq and the 'government', i.e., Saddam Hussein, ran for his life like the coward he was. 

We invaded a sovereign nation that was no threat to us in the slightest.   You can call it whatever you like, but I can promise you if Russia decided to "liberate" us from our government you would have an issue with it.

[Running Gator]

3 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

All of it.  It's just leftist talking points.  I've heard them all before but I've never seen anyone quote THEMSELVES quite so extensively.

Did you miss us firing 59 missiles into a sovereign nation a week ago?  How is that false, or did it really not happen?

[1x1is1]

Gator, I'm surprised at you.  You should know full well that a "prevent defense" only assures the other team a scoring opportunity.  Should we merely fall back on the one yard line and wait for threats to become reality?  I know that life is not a football game, but even a good offense can't win if you have a poor defense.  That holds true for real life too!