other one Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,852 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, OneLight said: A book can be 90% correct, but that other 10% makes it a lie. God does not lie. That comes close to many of our English translations of the Bible... I'd be careful of using that as a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church Canon: http://www.ethiopianorthodox.org/english/canonical/books.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_Enoch_Scroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 hours ago, other one said: Shows the opposite. Shows the New Testament writers were aware of the information in the book. Especially since it is older than the New Testament. Only parts of it are older than the NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 hours ago, other one said: We finished a conference today that partially included the Book of 1 Enoch. And nine very talented speakers and 3,000 Christians from all over the world take 1 Enoch as reality So what? Millions of Evangelicals also think that the other religions are as valid as Christianity and that you don't need to necessarily trust in Jesus alone for salvation. Millions of Christians don't believe that Jews need Jesus to be saved. Should we let what other Christians think and believe become the standard for what we base theology upon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 It should be pointed out that the there is no evidence that when Jude quoted Enoch that Jude's quote came from the book of Enoch. There is no reference in Scripture to a document called, "the book of Enoch." Everything used to make the book of Enoch appear to be ancient relative to the early church is really nothing but tradition, given that we don't have any manuscript evidence to prove it predates the first century by thousands of years as some claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 hours ago, other one said: That comes close to many of our English translations of the Bible... I'd be careful of using that as a standard. You clearly don't understand how translations work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,852 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Only parts of it are older than the NT. All of 1 Enoch is older than the new testament and you know that i and most other people reject 2 and 3 Enoch as something to trust. Yet you constantly throw them together to put down 1 Enoch. It's a pattern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Everything used to make the book of Enoch appear to be ancient relative to the early church is really nothing but tradition, given that we don't have any manuscript evidence to prove it predates the first century by thousands of years as some claim. That's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,852 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, shiloh357 said: So what? Millions of Evangelicals also think that the other religions are as valid as Christianity and that you don't need to necessarily trust in Jesus alone for salvation. Millions of Christians don't believe that Jews need Jesus to be saved. Should we let what other Christians think and believe become the standard for what we base theology upon? Not necessarily Shiloh, but when those putting on the conference have higher levels of credentials than yourself, why should I put you over them. We have this discussion over several subjects where people that I agree with have higher levels of training and experience than yourself yet you expect me and others to put trust in your thoughts over others. So as usual to keep threads from being deleted I'll just express things in my own way and let others decide for themselves. We'll let God sort out things between us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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