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18 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

What leads you to come to that conclusion? Provide scripture plz

At work,give me a sec..

I'll say this now though,the seals are not in order

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18 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Retro,

Well I spoke too soon.:o Pre-trib is the only possibility. When we look at why God sends Jesus, we realise it is to bring the Body of Christ to His own throne where He and they will bring judgment over the nations in the trib. (Acts 3: 20 & 21,  & Rev. 3: 21,  1 Cor. 6: 2 & 3)

Marilyn. 

Shalom, Marilyn.

Okay, let's look at why God sends Jesus (Yeshua`): You gave three passages of Scripture:

Acts 3:20-21 (I'm including verse 19 so we have a complete sentence.)

Acts 3:19-21
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
KJV

Here's what one such prophet wrote:

Joel 2:18-3:2
18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:
20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.
22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.
23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.

25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
KJV

Revelation 3:21

Revelation 3:21
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
KJV

Actually, we need to go back to the prophecy about His throne:

Luke 1:30-33
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
KJV

There's nothing disjoint about His throne from Israel. We who have become believers from Gentile origins sometimes forget "the Way's" Jewish roots, but the truth remains that His THRONE is DAVID'S throne!

It becomes more than that temporarily throughout the Millennium as He subdues His enemies and acquires other nations as tributary to His Kingdom, becoming a King of kings, or a World Emperor. However, when He relinquishes rulership to His Father at the end of the Millennium, He will remain Israel's King as David's rightful heir.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3 (Again, I'm including more verses for context:)

1 Corinthians 6:1-8
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren!
KJV

So, this begs the question, "Who are the saints?" Obviously, Paul considered these people of Korinth to be SOME of these "saints," because he next asks, "And if the world shall be judged BY YOU, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?"

Paul's solution for them was not to go before judges who were unbelievers, but "set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church." That is, within your gathering, find those who are least likely to be influenced by others and make them your judges.

Again, let's go to the Greek: "The saints" is translated from the Greek words "hoi hagioi," the plural of "ho hagios":

NT:40 hagios (hag'-ee-os); from hagos (an awful [awesome] thing) [compare NT:53, NT:2282]; sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated):
KJV - (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Not only is this the same word that is used of the "HOLY Spirit," but it is also found in...

Matthew 27:50-53
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
KJV

These are PAST children of Israel who were resurrected in the same way that Lazarus was resurrected; no one as yet has died on Yeshua`s behalf!

Through the terms "holy city" and "Holy Spirit," we can go back to the Hebrew of the OT and find that the word in Hebrew that meant the same thing was "qodesh." It was even translated with the same word, "saints":

Deuteronomy 33:1-3
1 And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
2 And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
3 Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words.
KJV

This sounds awfully similar to ...

Jude 14-15
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
KJV

The point is this: "His saints" are NOT just to be found in the "Church," as some people write it.

This is why I find it so ... peculiar and odd, that Pre-tribs think the "Church" has to be in "Heaven" during the Millennium! We're PART of the "saints," which God has "set apart" for Himself since the days that the children of Israel first left Egypt! Where else does it make sense in all this for the saints to rule and reign with Him - the Messiah of God for Israel - if not in the Millennium?! 

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6 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

 

Hello again Marilyn,

So would you agree that the two covenants are summarized by the distinction between those who live under the law as unbelievers, and those who are part of the second covenant are those who have accepted Jesus or believers?  I imagine we agree that anyone under the law is going to come up on the wrong side at the GWTJ.

God bless

Hi wingnut,

The two covenants - law and grace. However we need to remember that God is merciful and those who never knew of God`s grace, will be judged by how they lived their lives according to their conscience. (Rev. 20: 13)

Blessings, Marilyn. 

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13 hours ago, fixerupper said:

It impresses me that people would use Romans 9 and 11 to support a pre-trib rapture.  When pre-trib was around in the 60's and 70's many of its contradictions were not discovered for years aftwrwaeds.  Then the pre=trib camp had to fabricate all sorts of things to counter all the contradictions that surfaced.  Pre=trib makes God appear sloppy and indiscriminate claiming that planes, trains, and automobiles will crash killing millions of innocent people.  How nice.  A pristine act of deliverance turned terror attack.

Hi fixerupper,

I do agree that believing that Jesus could come any minute would bring about much chaos. However this will not be how is comes about for we know in God`s word -

` But you brethren, are not in darkness, so that this day should overtake you as a thief.` (1 Thess. 5: 4)

`...and exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

So we see that those who are looking for the Lord returning will see when the tribulation is about to start. Thus they come together all the more, encouraging each other and getting ready - setting their affairs in order and NOT flying planes, trains, cars, etc.

Marilyn.

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8 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi wingnut,

The two covenants - law and grace. However we need to remember that God is merciful and those who never knew of God`s grace, will be judged by how they lived their lives according to their conscience. (Rev. 20: 13)

Blessings, Marilyn. 

Hello Marilyn you almost have it (smile)

That's the purpose of the millennium,will explain shortly 

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14 hours ago, fixerupper said:

You can't use the Old Testament Hebrew word elect/bachiyr, and associate it with the NT word"eklektos."  Other than the Messiah and Moses, the word elect or chosen always meant Israel in the OT.  But that's not the case in the New Testament where the word elect or chosen ALWAYS refer to Christians, and once or twice to Jesus and angels.  NOT ONCE in the New Testament is the word "eklektos" used to describe Jews or Israel.

If Mathew would have recorded Jesus' words using one of these NT words, I would agree with you.  But he didn't.

1445. Hebraios heb-rah'-yos from 
1443; a Hebræan (i.e. Hebrew) or Jew:--Hebrew.

 

Hi fixrupper,

We need to look at Romans 11: 28 for there we see that Israel also has an election - one of God`s elect group.

` Concerning the gospel they (Israel) are enemies for your sake, but concerning the ELECTION they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.` (Rom. 11: 28)

Quite clear there bro, that God still has Israel as His elect as well as the Body of Christ.

` For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.`(Rom. 11: 29)

Marilyn.

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7 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Hello Marilyn you almost have it (smile)

That's the purpose of the millennium,will explain shortly 

Hi n2thelight,

I`m getting to your question concerning the beginning of the restoration of all things, just had to finish those short ones.

Marilyn.

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19 hours ago, n2thelight said:

May I ask,what is the first?

 

Hi n2thelight,

Thank you for asking and for your interest. Now many people have not been taught this important point. I was taught by my teachers back in the `60`s, so it is not something I have made up.

The OT prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel were given a revelation of the angelic realm. They told of Lucifer being the most beautiful angel with wisdom. He was a priest, (symbolised by the gem stones etc) and a king, (a throne.) He was a kingpriest ruling over angels in that high realm of the third heaven.

However as we know he aspired to have his throne, his rulership as high as God`s - the recesses of the north. But he showed that he was not worthy to hold a position of rulership there and was cast out. Now that area has never had another visible ruler worthy of ruling there.

God`s throne is above all and the glorified Jesus is at His right hand. However we know that at some point God the Father will appoint His Son, Jesus as supreme king, the visible ruler in the third heaven as kingpriest over all created realms.

This is the first position of rulership to be restored under God. From there we know that the Lord will reign and bring all rule and authority under His feet, throughout the tribulation and on through the millennium.

regards, Marilyn. 

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37 minutes ago, Retrobyter said:

 

Again, let's go to the Greek: "The saints" is translated from the Greek words "hoi hagioi," the plural of "ho hagios":

NT:40 hagios (hag'-ee-os); from hagos (an awful [awesome] thing) [compare NT:53, NT:2282]; sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated):
KJV - (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

 

Hi Retro,

Actually `qodesh,`is holy ones, and that can be angels or saints, so more scriptures are needed for confirmation. Jesus Himself said that angels came with Him, so that clears that up.

Marilyn.

BTW I do not read your long posts, and I wouldn`t think others do either. I suggest for better conversation that you just have one point and then do another post for your next point etc. Then we can reply to your points. (Just suggesting bro.) 

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5 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi n2thelight,

Thank you for asking and for your interest. Now many people have not been taught this important point. I was taught by my teachers back in the `60`s, so it is not something I have made up.

The OT prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel were given a revelation of the angelic realm. They told of Lucifer being the most beautiful angel with wisdom. He was a priest, (symbolised by the gem stones etc) and a king, (a throne.) He was a kingpriest ruling over angels in that high realm of the third heaven.

However as we know he aspired to have his throne, his rulership as high as God`s - the recesses of the north. But he showed that he was not worthy to hold a position of rulership there and was cast out. Now that area has never had another visible ruler worthy of ruling there.

God`s throne is above all and the glorified Jesus is at His right hand. However we know that at some point God the Father will appoint His Son, Jesus as supreme king, the visible ruler in the third heaven as kingpriest over all created realms.

This is the first position of rulership to be restored under God. From there we know that the Lord will reign and bring all rule and authority under His feet, throughout the tribulation and on through the millennium.

regards, Marilyn. 

Im in agreement perse but here's how I was taught.

Rebellion of Satan Bible Study

In this Bible study we are going to take a look at what Satan was up to in the first earth age and what caused God to end that age. If you don't know that there are Three World Ages, you should also read that study as it will help you understand this one. The things we are going to be talking about in this study happened a very long time ago. We were all happy in heaven which was on earth at that time. We did not have flesh bodies but only spiritual ones. Satan who was called Lucifer back then was a good guy and had great responsibilities given to him by God. But one day that all changed.

Isaiah 14:12-17

V12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The name 'Lucifer' is Strong's 1966 and means heylel (hay-lale'); from 1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star.

Strong's number 1984 is a primitive root; to be clear (orig. of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence, to make a show, to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causatively, to celebrate; also to stultify.

The fall from heaven this is talking about happened in the first earth age. Lucifer use to be Satan's name but it was changed by God. For more information on his names see our Other names for Satan study. Lucifer is the fake morning star, Jesus Christ is the true morning Star.

Revelation 22:16
V16 I Jesus have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright and morning Star.

V13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of GOD: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Lucifer is really getting full of pride here. He wants to sit in the Divine assembly of judgment which in Psalms 82:1 we read that is God's job.

Psalms 82:1
V1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; He judgeth among the gods.

He also wants to sit "in the sides of the north." The problem with that is, that is where God's throne is.

Psalms 75:6-7
V6 For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
V7 But God is the judge: He putteth down one, and setteth up another.

V14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the MOST HIGH.

The words "MOST HIGH" is Strong's 5945 and means 'elyown (el-yone'); from 5927; an elevation, i.e. (adj.) lofty (compar.); as title, the Supreme.

That is one of the Divine names of God and is God as possessor of heaven and earth. Lucifer was so full of pride that he wanted to be God. Gee, I wonder what God thinks of that.

V15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

God does not like people that are full of pride and will bring them down to size. Without repentance, as in the case of Lucifer, that means death of the soul.

V16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, 'Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
V17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?'

This happens in the millennium when Satan is cast into the bottomless pit for a thousand years. People that are deceived by Satan thus receiving the Mark of the Beast, will be amazed that they were deceived by him, for he is just a man.

Revelation 20:2-3
V2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
V3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Lets go to Ezekiel 28 and read more about Satan's rebellion. Ezekiel 28:1-10 are after his fall and verses 11-19 are about before his fall.

Ezekiel 28:1-19

V1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
V2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a GOD, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not GOD, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

The word "Tyrus" is Strong's 6865 and means Tsor (tsore); or Tsowr (tsore); the same as 6864; a rock; Tsor, a place in Palestine.

Strong's 6864 is tsor (tsore); from 6696; a stone (as if pressed hard or to a point); (by implication, of use) a knife.

Some may say that this is not talking about Satan at all but as we cover these verses you will see that it can be only him. His heart was full of pride and he thought he was better than God. Seas as it is used here is symbolic of people. Satan is the false rock while Christ is our true Rock.

V3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

If you read the book of Daniel you will find that he was a very wise man, but Satan is even wiser. He knows the word of God very well, he just changes it around to suite his needs. He used God's word against Eve and he used it to test Jesus Christ.

V4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
V5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

The word "traffick" is Strong's 7404 and means rekullah (rek-ool-law'); feminine passive participle of 7402; trade (as peddled).

Strong's 7402 is rakal (raw-kal'); a primitive root; to travel for trading.

Satan has used his great wisdom to get riches by lying and deceiving people. Satan with the help of his friends here on earth, rip people off everyday. Tennis shoes that cost $150 bucks when they are made by some 14 year old in a third world country that gets paid twenty cents a day come to mind. Add the cost of what they pay the 14 year old and the material that the shoes are made of and what do you come up with? Not $150 bucks. There are many more examples like this but I think you get the idea. Just be wiser than Satan and his friends and look for the best deals around. Satan's heart is lifted up because of his riches but what is that going to get him in the end? A one way ticket to burn in hell.

V6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;

Satan who is a unjust liar among other things wanted to be God. Thank God, Who is just and does not lie, didn't let it happen. There is only one true God and that's the way it will always be.

V7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
V8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

The word "defile" is Strong's 2490 and means chalal (khaw-lal'); a primitive root [compare 2470]; properly, to bore, i.e. (by implication) to wound, to dissolve; figuratively, to profane (a person, place or thing), to break (one's word), to begin (as if by an "opening wedge"); denom. (from 2485) to play (the flute).

The word "brightness" is Strong's 3314 and means yiph` ah (yif-aw'); from 3313; splendor or (figuratively) beauty: -brightness.

For those that think these verses are not talking about Satan, yiph' ah is only used twice. Here and in verse 17 where when read with the verses before it, it is very clear that it is talking about Satan.

The swords talked about here is the word of God. People will start to tell the truth about Satan and what his plans are which in turn will wound his brightness.

V9 Wilt thou yet say before Him That slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no GOD, in the hand of Him That slayeth thee.
V10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

The 'Him' in verse nine is referring to Jesus Christ. Christ will end Satan's reign of unrighteousness when He returns at the second advent. Satan thinks that he is so big and bad but he is no match for Jesus Christ. Satan in due time will be killed and all that follow him will be killed also.

II Thessalonians 2:8
V8 And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:

Revelation 20:10
V10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:15
V15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

V11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
V12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Remember that the word "Tyrus" means rock. Satan is the false rock, while Christ is the true Rock. Lucifer before he rebelled against God was perfect. He was very wise and beautiful.

V13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

This tells us that Satan was in the garden of Eden in this earth age. This also goes on to tell us that Lucifer was very blessed in the first earth age. At one time, God was very pleased with him and gave him great responsibilities. God created Lucifer, he was not born of woman. Lucifer, who had his name changed to Satan by God, is a supernatural being. He has more powers than we do but even Satan has to ask God's permission to do something. Read the first two chapters of Job. Also, in Luke Christ gave us power over Satan.

Luke 10:18-20
V18 And He said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
V19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
V20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

V14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Lucifer's job in the first earth age was to protect the very throne of God in heaven. Stones of fire is God's altar.

V15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Lucifer was perfect in God's eyes until evil was found in him.

V16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

The word "violence" is Strong's 2555 and means chamac (khaw-mawce'); from 2554; violence; by implication, wrong; by meton. unjust gain.

Strong's 2554 is chamac (khaw-mas'); a primitive root; to be violent; by implication, to maltreat.

Lucifer with his lies and deception received unjust gain and sinned. This happened in the first earth age and at that time a third of God's children followed after Lucifer.

Revelation 12:3-4
V3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
V4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

V17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Lucifer thought he was so good he wanted to be God. He became full of pride and would not change his ways, so God had to cast him out of heaven. These are the events that brought the first earth age to an end.

V18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
V19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Here Lucifer is sentenced to death by God Himself. If you ever wondered what hell is going to be like, these verses tell us. Satan and anyone else that is sentenced to death, God will destroy their soul with fire until the only thing left is ashes.

So now we have a better understanding of who Satan is and what his job use to be. Because of his rebellion and the fact that a third of God's children followed him, God ended the first earth age and started the second one. This is the one we are living in now. If no one followed after Satan when he rebelled in the first earth age, God would have just killed him then and you would not even be reading this study. But seeing that so many followed him, God ended that earth age and started the one we are living in now, the second earth age. If you ever wondered why we are here, the answer to that is simple. We are being tested. God want's to find out who loves and will follow Him and who is going to follow Satan. There is no middle road, people are either for God or against Him. The fate of those against God is death.

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