Swords99 Posted June 21, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, fixerupper said: My own studies. I use the textus receptus, Strong's, Thayers, gesenius, Vines, Wuest, eic. I do word studies and have a method. And you? How do you arrive at what we all call "truth." The Holy Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted June 21, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Swords99 said: The Holy Bible. The bible wasn't written in English. If that's the way you study it you will surely be misled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted June 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2017 5 hours ago, fixerupper said: My own studies. I use the textus receptus, Strong's, Thayers, gesenius, Vines, Wuest, eic. I do word studies and have a method. And you? How do you arrive at what we all call "truth." Do you use only Textus Receptus? Do you ever compare this to CT and MT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted June 21, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, OneLight said: Do you use only Textus Receptus? Do you ever compare this to CT and MT? Strong's offers Thayer, Gesenius, Vines, and I also use Wuest. I believe that's all Textus and I think the Majority Text is Textus too. I really don't use any of the newer versions like Nestle etc. since I've found they often omit or add the article, and that makes a big difference in Greek and Hebrew. I've found that this interlinear is the best and it too is Textus Receptus. http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm Edited June 21, 2017 by fixerupper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted June 21, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, enoob57 said: My statement above caused this statement of yours below... but I somewhat at a loss to understand yours in reply of mine you probably should reread what I wrote cause this is out of line with it all! Yes I misread the post. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords99 Posted June 21, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, fixerupper said: The bible wasn't written in English. If that's the way you study it you will surely be misled. I wonder what did Christians do for all these many, many years before there were all these study bibles, concordances, topical bibles, dictionaries, commentaries, scholars, authors, etc, etc. My guess is that they were guided by the Holy Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Here is the true chronological order of events, exactly the way that God arranged them in his word: * You are Here! * The gathering of the church The Wrath of God: 1st Seal - The revealing of the antichrist 2nd Seal - Peace taken from the earth so that men kill each other 3rd Seal - World-wide famine causing food to be high priced 4th Seal - One fourth of the earths population killed as a result of the previous seals 5th Seal - Martyrs under the alter in heaven 6Th Seal - Great earthquake, sun darkened, moon blood red, stars fall to the earth 7th Seal - Angels receive their trumpets, prayers of the saints go up before God ---- 1st Trumpet - A third of the earth and trees are burned up ---- 2nd Trumpet - A third of the creatures die, a third of the ships destroyed ---- 3rd Trumpet - A third of the fresh water contaminated, many people die from drinking ---- 4th Trumpet - Sun, moon and stars are darkened so that a third of the light is missing ---- 5th Trumpet - Demonic beings are released from the Abyss to torment the inhabitants ---- 6th Trumpet - A third of mankind is killed by the four angels and the army of 200 million ---- 7th Trumpet - Satan and his angels are thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth ---------- 1st Bowl - Painful, ugly sores break out on those who receive the mark of the beast ---------- 2nd Bowl - The sea is turned into literal blood ---------- 3rd Bowl - The rivers and fresh water are turned into literal blood ---------- 4th Bowl - The sun scorches people with intense heat, searing them ---------- 5th Bowl - The beasts kingdom is plunged into darkness ---------- 6th Bowl - The Euphrates is dried up, demons gather for kings for Armageddon ---------- 7th Bowl - Strongest earthquake ever, hail stones from 75 to 100 lbs. fall * Jesus returns to the earth to end the age and establish His thousand year reign * The beast and the false prophet are captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire * Satan is seize and thrown into the Abyss during Christ thousand year reign * The great tribulation saints are resurrected * Millennial period That is the correct chronological order of events Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted June 22, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Swords99 said: I wonder what did Christians do for all these many, many years before there were all these study bibles, concordances, topical bibles, dictionaries, commentaries, scholars, authors, etc, etc. My guess is that they were guided by the Holy Spirit. People like to prop themselves up by saying they are guided by the Spirit and that's why they have things right. God can bless our efforts, but it's up to the individual to use a common sense method and approach. God cannot enlighten the mind of a person who believes they already have things all figured out. We must have an unbiased approach and willing to change our mind when the evidence is there to do so. The early church relied on prophets and apostles to instruct and lead them. They also had the original text. We should not discourage the use of resource books where people spent their life's work compling these lexicons so that we can understand the Word of God. Every Christian should use these resources. Edited June 22, 2017 by fixerupper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted June 22, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blueyedjewel said: Here is the true chronological order of events, exactly the way that God arranged them in his word: * You are Here! * The gathering of the church The Wrath of God:..... That is the correct chronological order of events Blessings That's you're rendition of the order of events. Kind of vague for me. The gathering takes place first? Where? In Revelation 4:1? Edited June 22, 2017 by fixerupper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted June 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, fixerupper said: Strong's offers Thayer, Gesenius, Vines, and I also use Wuest. I believe that's all Textus and I think the Majority Text is Textus too. I really don't use any of the newer versions like Nestle etc. since I've found they often omit or add the article, and that makes a big difference in Greek and Hebrew. I've found that this interlinear is the best and it too is Textus Receptus. http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm I used scripture4all for a time, but they changed. You can download their app. Majority Text includes Textus Receptus, and other newer writings found recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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