Kevinb Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: 8 minutes ago, Kevinb said: This is just assertion again. Please demonstrate a God doing this.. What evidence? How is he constantly sustaining the moon being there ..how can I check this is the case? He's maintaining the moon earth gap? How can we check he's actively doing and sustaining it today as you said? It's not just gravity and laws of physics? I can't demonstrate it to you, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. An all-powerful, all-knowing God is a far better and more rational explanation for everything relative to the created order, including gravity and the laws of physics, both of which He created than anything evolutionists can come up with. Doesn't mean its not true I agree. Doesnt mean it is either. Why believe something you can't investigate or demonstrate. Yet you say it's more rational to believe in something you can't demonstrate or investigate..interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegi91 Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 12 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,802 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, shiloh357 said: God is the source of light and life, even today. We need God because God sustains everything He has made. He keeps the earth spinning on its axis and he keeps the sun and the moon in place and keeps us from getting too, close or too far away from either one. It is actually the conservation of angular momentum, which is the direct consequence of the rotation symmetry, that keeps the earth spinning. siegi Edited September 11, 2017 by siegi91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, siegi91 said: It is actually the conservation of angular momentum that keeps the earth spinning. siegi That is true, and that is how God designed it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Kevinb said: Doesn't mean its not true I agree. Doesnt mean it is either. Why believe something you can't investigate or demonstrate. Yet you say it's more rational to believe in something you can't demonstrate or investigate..interesting. It's a more rational explanation than anyone else can present. The universe acts intelligently, and that is because there is an intelligence behind it that designed it and sustains it. It is easier to believe that than to believe that it all happens by chance or happenstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, siegi91 said: It is actually the conservation of angular momentum, which is the direct consequence of the rotation symmetry, that keeps the earth spinning. siegi And the conservation of angular momentum alone DISPROVES the "big bang theory" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinb Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, KiwiChristian said: 26 minutes ago, Kevinb said: So the word of God is evidence God is the light? Thanks for the circular reasoning. So how do we prove that? What you said isn't evidence. Well, then we get into a completely different topic. The authority of the Bible. If you wish to discuss this topic, please start a new thread Isn't all of it authority of the bible? Let there be light and day night and this convo stems from creation story and pertinent to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 11, 2017 if the "days" are millions of years, does God want us to WORK millions of years and then rest for millions of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinb Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: 13 minutes ago, Kevinb said: Doesn't mean its not true I agree. Doesnt mean it is either. Why believe something you can't investigate or demonstrate. Yet you say it's more rational to believe in something you can't demonstrate or investigate..interesting. It's a more rational explanation than anyone else can present. The universe acts intelligently, and that is because there is an intelligence behind it that designed it and sustains it. It is easier to believe that than to believe that it all happens by chance or happenstance. Yep I'm still not getting it's more rational to believe things you can't demonstrate or investigate. How does the universe act intelligently? Can you demonstrate that? We observe a universe so we should see the intelligence... please eloborate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinb Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Error. See next post Edited September 11, 2017 by Kevinb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinb Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: It is easier to believe that than to believe that it all happens by chance or happenstance. That's a logical fallacy called an argument from incredulity btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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