Guest shiloh357 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MyLordsServant said: "legalists" as you call them. Are supporting the law commanded by God. No, they are not. I know many Sabbath keepers who keep the commandments and are not legalists. Quote If you can find an error in that, then you can call them "legalists". If you deny the validity of law, then your whole scripture is upside down. I deny the silly way you guys are try to impose the law on other believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLordsServant Posted January 7, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 479 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 171 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: I deny the silly way you guys are try to impose the law on other believers. I say to you, 'Jesus taught how to keep the Sabbath, not how to avoid it'. What part of that is silly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, MyLordsServant said: I say to you, 'Jesus taught how to keep the Sabbath, not how to avoid it'. What part of that is silly? Jesus never issued any commandment to the Church to keep the Sabbath. Jesus didn't teach how to keep the Sabbath. Jesus IS the Sabbath. You can have your Sabbath day. I will take the One who is the very personification of the Sabbath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLordsServant Posted January 7, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 479 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 171 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: Jesus never issued any commandment to the Church to keep the Sabbath. Jesus didn't teach how to keep the Sabbath. Jesus IS the Sabbath. You can have your Sabbath day. I will take the One who is the very personification of the Sabbath. Jesus clearly and plainly taught, how to keep the Sabbath. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, MyLordsServant said: Jesus clearly and plainly taught, how to keep the Sabbath. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. He did not command it to us. He is the one to whom the Sabbath pointed. So in order to be like you, I have to go backwards. I have treat the Sabbath like Jesus hasn't come yet and brought it to fuller expression in His Person. I would have to return to the OT economy and live like the Sabbath is still pointing to Jesus. I have Jesus and He is my Sabbath and He supersedes the Sabbath day. If you still want the Sabbath day, that's up to you. But I am a Christian and Christians understand that Jesus is the only Sabbath they need. You can wallow in the law if you want. I will worship the one to whom the law pointed and I find my rest in Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted January 7, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 478 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,565 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 7,644 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, MyLordsServant said: Jesus clearly and plainly taught, how to keep the Sabbath. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. You deny that Jesus is the sabbath. We rest in him from all our works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted January 7, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2018 I think you need these verses to. Hebrews chapter 7 11. If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come--one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12. For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law. 18. The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19. (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2018 21 hours ago, Wayne222 said: People are trying to get christians to keep the seventh day sabbath of rest. The Sabbath was a shadow of the rest in christ we have. If you say we still have to keep it you are putting a yoke on others. We are free to kerp any day to the lord. Rest on monday if you wish and honor God. Amen Wayne. Even the NT says though the Saturday Sabbath hasnt changed we dont HAVE to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, shiloh357 said: He did not command it to us. He is the one to whom the Sabbath pointed. So in order to be like you, I have to go backwards. I have treat the Sabbath like Jesus hasn't come yet and brought it to fuller expression in His Person. I would have to return to the OT economy and live like the Sabbath is still pointing to Jesus. I have Jesus and He is my Sabbath and He supersedes the Sabbath day. If you still want the Sabbath day, that's up to you. But I am a Christian and Christians understand that Jesus is the only Sabbath they need. You can wallow in the law if you want. I will worship the one to whom the law pointed and I find my rest in Him. And Jesus taught people how to keep the Sabbath or the Law only because the people were still under the Law as Jesus hadnt yet DIED. Big difference thus between them and us Edited January 8, 2018 by TheMatrixHasU71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2018 20 hours ago, MyLordsServant said: People "whining" about Sabbath, are not doing something wrong, by keeping the law valid. Where in the NT please does it say we have to keep the Law to be saved? There has been thread after thread on this where we teach what it truly means to be saved by grace and we are NOT under the Law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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