Still Alive Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: other newer transaltions , and I found they omitted , twisted things . That is the problem I have . I said SOME I did not say ALL. Because I was not raised in church and did not have a dog in the hunt, regarding which was best, I was able to study with an open mind. What I found was not that other versions twisted meaning or left stuff out. Rather, they were different than the KJV. But I also learned they were translated from more complete information that was not available when the KJV was compiled, but that evidence is strong that over-zealous scribes added their own words to "help clarify" in the KJV. So I look at the KJV kinda like I look at an early 20th century dictionary. When you find one, look up "computer". It's in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Online Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Still Alive said: I'm a big fan of Graham. That's just a minor annoyance. My mother tongue IS English. 20th century English. I suppose if I was raised in a church that was KJV only, I'd feel differently. I became a Christian at age 27. I'm married to no Christian traditions other than those actually in the bible. If you attend most fundamental Baptist Churches, you would find that they use the KJV. Also they use the old hymn books that contains those languages. After years of attending you just get use to the words and their meaning. Well at least the ones that I have attended. The Pentecostals would use the NIV mostly and so each has their preferences. Accuracy and the rest I leave that up to the theologians to trash out and I try to listen to their comments and see what makes sense and what does not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 26, 2018 58 minutes ago, warrior12 said: Isaiah 1 King James Version (KJV) 4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Woe to the sinful nation, a people whose guilt is great,a brood of evildoers, children given to corruption! They have forsaken the Lord; they have spurned the Holy One of Israel and turned their backs on him. Isaiah 1:4 NIV 59 minutes ago, warrior12 said: Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. Why should you be beaten anymore? Why do you persist in rebellion?Your whole head is injured, your whole heart afflicted. Isaiah 1:5 NIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, LadyKay said: Thou go forth to burger king and receiveth thy cheeseburger. Funny, your post is.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Online Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, LadyKay said: 1 hour ago, warrior12 said: Isaiah 1 King James Version (KJV) 4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Woe to the sinful nation, a people whose guilt is great,a brood of evildoers, children given to corruption! They have forsaken the Lord; they have spurned the Holy One of Israel and turned their backs on him. Isaiah 1:4 NIV 1 hour ago, warrior12 said: Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. Why should you be beaten anymore? Why do you persist in rebellion?Your whole head is injured, your whole heart afflicted. Isaiah 1:5 NIV I can understand both equally well. However, the critics of Bible versions would point out the nitty gritty of verses mistranslated and omitted, which is a whole other subject by itself and which i don't get into. Edited March 26, 2018 by warrior12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Online Share Posted March 26, 2018 edited..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 26, 2018 47 minutes ago, warrior12 said: If you attend most fundamental Baptist Churches, you would find that they use the KJV. Also they use the old hymn books that contains those languages. After years of attending you just get use to the words and their meaning. Well at least the ones that I have attended. The Pentecostals would use the NIV mostly and so each has their preferences. Accuracy and the rest I leave that up to the theologians to trash out and I try to listen to their comments and see what makes sense and what does not. When I became a Christian, I started attending an AG church for 18 years. Then the divorce forced me to change. I went to "Christian", pseudo-baptist, non-denominational and foursquare. Changing churches each time I moved (I was an IT contractor in the Seattle area and moved when I changed contracts) Seven years ago I moved to rural KY and a couple years later joined a southern gospel band that tours all the small Baptist churches around here (millions of 'em). THAT was a real eye opener. If I hear one more fire breathing sermon on the pain and suffering of the fires of hell, I'll off myself - if only to prove it's wrong. (jk) But yeah, they were all KJV only. The first church we attended here in KY was one of those churches. The first time they asked me to read out loud, I read straight from my trusty NIV. Only later did I understand why I got the looks I did from everyone. And then never asked me to read again.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Still Alive said: The first church we attended here in KY was one of those churches. The first time they asked me to read out loud, I read straight from my trusty NIV. Only later did I understand why I got the looks I did from everyone. And then never asked me to read again.:) Your my hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Online Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) Those who have trouble with reading the KJV, would also have trouble reading the writings of the Puritans, which in IMO, are some of the best written christian literature. Also reading the KJV helps you to sharpen or expand your vocabulary and maybe engage in some parallel comparisons to get a broader view on some topics, verses and chapters ect. Bible students would surely have a parallel online Bible software that can quickly compare. Here is one. http://www.biblecc.com/ Edited March 26, 2018 by warrior12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Abby-Joy said: I never had an issue understanding it since it is Holy Spirit who inspired the Word of God in the first place and Holy Spirit is who quickens our understanding. Just a something to think upon. Wouldn't a comment like this cause someone to feel that they are not saved if they are having trouble reading a KJV Bible? Like I said, just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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