Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Still Alive said: Amazon has a copy of the contract available pretty cheap. I'll order it and read it. I'll then get back to you on what it says about who owns what. Hey Still Alive! If you think it takes precedence at this point in the discussion above the bible (save giving tribute to amazon in the process). We can see or find out where government is mandated by God (the owner of the joint). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dan_79 said: Hey Still Alive! If you think it takes precedence at this point in the discussion above the bible (save giving tribute to amazon in the process). We can see or find out where government is mandated by God (the owner of the joint). Thanks. For me, the scariest chapter in the bible is Romans 13. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Still Alive said: For me, the scariest chapter in the bible is Romans 13. Fear God. Romans was said to be quite inspiring to some. Others claim it was written by a liar. I guess faith is the all important part of it really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dan_79 said: Fear God. Romans was said to be quite inspiring to some. Others claim it was written by a liar. I guess faith is the all important part of it really. I see it as specific instructions to specific people. Our founding fathers violated it big time, assuming it applied to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Yowm said: All men are not equal due to the Fall. Govt. Enters here...Genesis 9:5-6 NKJV [5] Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man's brother I will require the life of man. [6] "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man. No one has said governments are immune to committing crimes...that's due to the Fall too. We live in an imperfect world, that includes governments and taxes...that's due to the Fall too. Please help me. I see the command from God to honor justice for the crimes that cause the death of a man by commanding punishment must ensue. If the animal causes the death it must be killed, so must any brother love God first and fulfill such a punishment by his hand. But I don't see the connection to government there. Unless of course you mean God is government? Basically we are to reward (read punish) in that scripture. It is regarding individuals who God gives the statute. It is not defined as some organized institution to visit that needs tax to complete its mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Still Alive said: I see it as specific instructions to specific people. Our founding fathers violated it big time, assuming it applied to them. Was the USA blessed by this action or cursed or even punished by God? (by their fruits ye shall know them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 If I am not banned I will return later. I still have seeds and seedlings to plant this evening so have to go for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dan_79 said: Was the USA blessed by this action or cursed or even punished by God? (by their fruits ye shall know them) I don't know that that applies. It was not a faith act. It was a "tired of getting pushed around" act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Yowm said: Again due to the Fall (you seem to leave this point out about the Fall) God has given man the mandate to put to death those who shed innocent blood. It takes an organized group of individuals to make that decision. I'm afraid by bypassing this, man becomes his own government independent of God such as those States which abolish Capital Punishment. Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed. (Rom 13:1-7) You may want to rebel and follow the spirit of witchcraft but you will have an accounting for that before the Judge of the universe. According to your chosen scripture you automatically become owned by the state. Your free will is directed to the will of any or all the fallen men that make up Gods government, with a limited incentive to actually keep Gods commandments. If you dont give tribute to the homosexuals you recieve Gods wrath, likewise avoid homosexuality altogether and you are rebelling against God lol. Wrath if you do right wrath if you do wrong. Its all about the "wrath" lol Which begs the question who is there left to rebel against? Ok So what about rebelling against a one world government? I take it you will be submitting all to it to avoid Gods wrath? Lol “If we cut the world’s population by 90%, there won’t be enough people left to do ecological damage.” Sam Keen at the State of the World Forum, September 27, 1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: Nope. I will simply go against that which is in clear violation of Scripture. I have done a lot of resistence type work both before Christ and after, I don't plan on changing that. But I still pay taxes because that is a clear directive to us as Christians. So you do your good bit before and after (funding the very fallen men you say you will be resisting in the future) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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