R. Hartono Posted January 15, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) God has hidden the secret of end times in the OT. Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, .... From Adam to Abraham was 1948 years From Jesus (new "Adam") to Israel's rebirth was 1948 years The 1948 years calculation : ***************************************************************** * Adam to Seth ............. 130 yrs (Genesis 5:3) * * Seth to Enos ............. 105 yrs (Genesis 5:6) * * Enos to Cainan ............ 90 yrs (Genesis 5:9) * * Cainan to Mahalaleel ...... 70 yrs (Genesis 5:12) * * Mahalaleel to Jared ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:15) * * Jared to Enoch ............ 162 yrs (Genesis 5:18) * * Enoch to Methuselah ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:21) * * Methuselah to Lamech ...... 187 yrs (Genesis 5:25) * * Lamech to Noah ............ 182 yrs (Genesis 5:28-29) * * Noah to the Flood ......... 600 yrs (Genesis 7:6) * * Flood to Arphaxad ......... 2 yrs (Genesis 11:10) * * Arphaxad to Salah ......... 35 yrs (Genesis 11:12) * * Salah to Eber ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:14) * * Eber to Peleg ............. 34 yrs (Genesis 11:16) * * Peleg to Reu ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:18) * * Reu to Serug ............. 32 yrs (Genesis 11:20) * * Serug to Nahor ............ 30 yrs (Genesis 11:22) * * Nahor to Terah ............ 29 yrs (Genesis 11:24) * * Terah to Abraham .......... 70 yrs (Genesis 11:26) * * ------- * * Adam to Abraham 1948 yrs (This same geneology is in Luke 3:34-38) * ***************************************************************** God told Abraham to move from his land when he was 75 years old, Gen 12: 4 So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Israel is now 71 years old, could it be that the exodus of the Jews prophesied by Jesus will happen when Israel becomes 75 like when Abraham departed ? If yes the AOD may happen in 2023 : Israel was birthed in May 1948 +75 years = May 2023 Because at the AOD Jesus told the Jews to make an exodus/DEPART out of Israel Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judæa flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. However, we dont know the exact age of Abraham when he departed from Haran, was he 75 years old exactly or was he several months over. But for sure he was not yet 76 years old. This is a study by Robert Breaker that God has revealed the end times situation in the Old Testament, just like a mirror, unfortunately this sub forum doesnt allow youtube video but you can find it with this wording : Search in youtube with words : 2019 Rap0ture??? youtube.com/watch?v=lTodEB25zj8&feature=youtu.be&t=1549 Edited March 30, 2019 by R. Hartono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 15, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,629 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 15, 2019 I know this person. Seen a few vids of his. He may be spot on with this, but I'm skeptical about two things in his vids: The predominance of pretrib and "non-datesetting". Not open for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted January 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Abdicate said: Genesis - Nimrod one world government; tower of Babel Revelation - Antichrist one world government; mystery Babylon; Babylon is destroyed What year was that Nimrod's one world order ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeySpeaksAgain Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 269 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 7:48 AM, R. Hartono said: Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, .... This is a jaw dropping study by Robert Breaker that God has revealed the end times situation in the Old Testament, just like a mirror, unfortunately this sub forum doesnt allow youtube video but you can find it with this wording : youtube.com/watch?v=lTodEB25zj8&feature=youtu.be&t=1549 He said from Adam to Abraham was 1948 years From Jesus (new "Adam") to Israel's rebirth was 1948 years God told Abraham to move from his land when he was 75 years old, Israel is now 71 years old, could it be that the exodus of the Jews prophesied by Jesus will happen when Israel becomes 75 ? If yes the AOD will happen in 2023 which is the first 3.5 years of tribulation. https://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/forum/forum/wedg-forums/general-prophecy-related/38074-abraham-born-1948-after-creation-israel-born-1948-after-christ He didnt say he knows the rapture date but these signs will speak by itself. HE says something will happen in late January, 2019..... well... nothing happened. Be careful, assuming a 7 year trib when it is really only 3.5 could led to some very wrong conclusions about the 2nd coming. Imagine the following scenario... the rapture happens and the A/C appears to die but miraculously lives. Then, for 5 months no one dies. The world will believe the A/C is Jesus (except for the 144K). Three and a half years later Jesus returns and claims to be the Messiah right after the 2 witnesses are finally killed. The Christian "experts" all taught about the rapture, and an ensuing 7 year tribulation before the 2nd coming AND that the Anti-Christ would come to Jerusalem at the midpoint and claim to be the Messiah. Can you understand why this topic is of utmost importance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 hours ago, DonkeySpeaksAgain said: Be careful, assuming a 7 year trib when it is really only 3.5 could led to some very wrong conclusions about the 2nd coming. Tribulation time is when the antichrist rules the world for 1260 days + 1290 days the 1st 1260 days : Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. AT THE 1260 DAYS ANTICHRIST WILL OPEN HIS MASK AND DECLARE HIMSELF AS GOD After the AOD there will be other 1290 DAYS Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeySpeaksAgain Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 269 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Tribulation time is when the antichrist rules the world for 1260 days + 1290 days the 1st 1260 days : Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. AT THE 1260 DAYS ANTICHRIST WILL OPEN HIS MASK AND DECLARE HIMSELF AS GOD After the AOD there will be other 1290 DAYS Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Again, first assumption is wrong. When does 69th week end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted February 2, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, DonkeySpeaksAgain said: Again, first assumption is wrong. When does 69th week end? The 69th week will end with the rapture of the church, this is not known even to Daniel. Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in OTHER AGES (OT PROPHETS LIKE DANIEL) was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: https://denveryouthproject.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/chart_daniels70weeks1.gif At the 70th week attention will focus on Israel as the Messiah and false prophet will lead the world from there, Temple shall be rebuilt in the short period of fake peace. Edited February 2, 2019 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeySpeaksAgain Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 269 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 12:50 AM, R. Hartono said: The 69th week will end with the rapture of the church, this is not known even to Daniel. Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in OTHER AGES (OT PROPHETS LIKE DANIEL) was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: https://denveryouthproject.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/chart_daniels70weeks1.gif At the 70th week attention will focus on Israel as the Messiah and false prophet will lead the world from there, Temple shall be rebuilt in the short period of fake peace. Show your work... you are dependent upon the 69th week ending at the cross. The numbers do NOT add up. Again, show how the 69th week ends at the cross, then you can make the assertions that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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