simplejeff Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, johnthebaptist said: You have to have the proof before you can make an accusation. Why ? What does God's Word say about the whole world ? (society) Are they truthful ? Bible says no. Can they comprehend the truth ? Again, Bible Says no. Can they learn the truth ? sticky wicket this one..... :) Can we learn the truth when we were dead in sin and trespasses ? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, PepperS said: I can't? I did. Why wouldn't Kim have known Otto was tortured? Kim had his own family member killed. What do you think happens when the North Koreans have an American Hostage accused of spying? We know Otto was tortured so badly he died a few days after he was released. Who had to approve that release? Kim. Nothing having to do with an American accused of spying would be done without this dictators complicity. Without proof, you can't make a charge stick, and the enemy will turn around and accuse you of lying, and how will you prove you aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said: Because your charge won't stick, and then YOU"LL be accused of lying. Just like Jesus was, and all His followers - they were/ are all called liars, and not granted justice except in a few times and cases. Jesus and His followers are all called demons even, and drunkards, and adulterer..... JUST EXACTLY AS JESUS SAID ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: Why ? What does God's Word say about the whole world ? (society) Are they truthful ? Bible says no. Can they comprehend the truth ? Again, Bible Says no. Can they learn the truth ? sticky wicket this one..... Can we learn the truth when we were dead in sin and trespasses ? ! If you accuse someone of lying and can't prove it, the enemy will accuse you of lying, and you won't be able to prove you're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: Without proof, you can't make a charge stick, and the enemy will turn around and accuse you of lying, and how will you prove you aren't? Our kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD. The charges in (of and from and by) this world are continuous and always harmful and death dealing. Just like in Jesus Day, in the first century, and every century since then. Which kingdom is important to you ? God's Kingdom, or this world ? Edited February 28, 2019 by simplejeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 24 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.38 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said: If you accuse someone of lying and can't prove it, the enemy will accuse you of lying, and you won't be able to prove you're not. since when has speaking the truth NOT carried a risk with it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, PepperS said: Did you read the rest of the post you quoted one word out of? No response for that? No, I'm being bombarded with questions on this thread, so I can only read a line or two of the longer posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 24 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.38 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, johnthebaptist said: No, I'm being bombarded with questions on this thread, so I can only read a line or two of the longer posts. I won't bombard any more brother. I'm sorry. The grief in my heart right now is overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Jostler said: since when has speaking the truth NOT carried a risk with it? When was speaking the truth accepted by the world - even when a man who was dead came back from the dead, the world did not and does not listen to him nor accept his word today ! only a few , only a few, a remnant, do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: Our kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD. The charges in (of and from and by) this world are continuous and always harmful and death dealing. Just like in Jesus Day, in the first century, and every century since then. Which kingdom is important to you ? God's Kingdom, or this world ? Our kingdom is not of this world, but if you publicly make an accusation you can't prove, the world will grab hold of you and give you a rough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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