Why was Bloodbought1953’s post about “Forgive and you will be forgiven” deleted?

[Blood Bought 1953]

 

So simple a child could understand it .....They  are not  “ smart enough” to add works, repentance, blah , blah, etc. , etc. to it.......

Remember when Jesus blessed those  children that were hanging all over Him? What a great guy he must have been, on top of being God in  Flesh.....what I wouldn’t give to be one of those kids that Jesus  put His hands  on and blessed personally! I often wonder how their lives went...

[Coliseum]

On 10/21/2019 at 10:53 PM, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 I considered putting it in Soteriology, but I though that since the idea behind everything was “ Forgiveness in the Age Of Grace”it did not really qualify to go in there.It was really meant to be more of a “ Grace” thing than a “ Salvation” thing.I apologize for  any problems this may have caused.

Here is what I was implying— and note that that I am not accusing anybody of anything. I know that that Grace Message That I try to spread is offensive to many people.I don’t know anything about the beliefs of the Mods here . My fear is that there would be some here with power that would try to squash the Gospel Of Grace  If they disagreed with it. I can’t understand why anybody would just cavalierly delete or send into oblivion a message that was Bible -Based. And if somebody does not think it was Bible Based, Give me the  chance to explain why I think it is.I honestly thought my post was something of value....showing that many things were changed- Forgiveness included- after the Cross.If I was a moderator in a Christian Forum , I think I would bend over backwards to preserve a post that could help many Believers. Unless I thought it was a  false , unbiblical belief— then I would do my best to get rid of it. I do not believe that is the case, and I certainly hope nobody here would do that.But only a fool would not see that this “ could” be the case—thus it is an occasional concern of mine.

As far as  being “ redundant”, what could be the harm of writing a response to somebody and realizing in the middle of it that it could be a good idea for a new thread ?Does redundancy and proper placement over- ride the importance of Bible -Backed messages that personally, I have never seen brought up at Worthy before ? Unless , of course, one thought what I was writing about was heresy.Do you understand my  concern ? Anything is possible ........Unjustified or not, I have good reason to be wary— the Bible throughout shows what happens to “boat rockers”. Jesus and Paul were not afraid to rock the boat.Neither am I. That would be the only thing I have in common with them, beyond being a possessor of the Holy Spirit.God bless you all, and a sincere thanks for all you guys do.

Please know your messages are very informative, and you are helping me see some things I have wrongly, or not clearly, understood. Thank you.

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 hour ago, Coliseum said:

Please know your messages are very informative, and you are helping me see some things I have wrongly, or not clearly, understood. Thank you.

 

Thanks for the kind words .....I strongly urge you to check out Andrew Farley and Renee Roland on You Tube ....two great teachers who actually understand that their IS a New Covenant and Know how to live in it as opposed to those that preach and live in the Mongrel Religion Of “Repenta-Juda-Anity”.Learn to live the True “Abundant Life” That Jesus Promised.Its really out there.......for those that REST in the Gospel as God commanded.God has blessed you- may He continue to do so.

[Debp]

12 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

Thank you, Renee.....I think it is tragic that we live in an Age Of  Grace and the average Believer refuses to take advantage of it- and let me clearly state that I do NOT mean to use Grace as a “ license to sin”.Anybody who thinks they can  sin and “ get away with it” is a fool— and you had better believe that God knows how to handle these fools!

People think they are taking some kind of “Noble Road” when they proclaim “I don’t care WHAT you say,  by golly I go by what Jesus said!” It sure sounds good— to those poorly taught, yes— but when you ignore what Jesus said through his “Secretary” , Paul , you Pay a steep price.

Christ’s Earthly Ministry took place under the Law. He lived it and preached it—- then fulfilled it for us.We are now DEAD to it . Jesus paid a dreadful price to be able to let us enter a New Period Of Grace.People do not realize the Freedoms we have now- not freedom to sin , but a freedom that comes from resting in the Gospel that tells us Jesus died for our sins and fussing and fretting about “ being good enough” is a waste of time.In fact, if you fool yourself into thinking you have “ made the grade” somehow, you are very likely damned.The Christian Walk, as Paul said , begins and ends in the same way— Faith.

I seem to be meandering a bit....typical stuff from an old , old man...lol.... Here is the point I am trying to make.....We are under Grace. This is what Paul taught.Paul wrote nothing in his letters that was not given for him to say by Jesus, via the Holy Spirit .Thinking In this manner would make it appear that Jesus contradicted  himself.It was the same Jesus that said you must forgive to be forgiven that later said all your sins were forgiven if you simply believe that He paid your sin debt and rose from the Grave.That is the Good News.That is “Paul’s Gospel” Given to Him personally by Jesus in the Sinai Desert in Paul’s 3 year Grace Class. It took that long to get the legalism out of his “ Pharisee Of Pharisees” brain.It was the same Jesus that said you should tithe your income ( there were three tithes— that’s 30 % of your income ) that later did a turnabout and said to give from your heart—- no demands to give anything if you were short- sighted enough to ignore “ heavenly rewards”. 

How does anybody get away with saying completely different things? Easily. The Cross changed everything .No contradictions by Jesus.There was a change in Reality itself.Simply by RESTING in the Gospel Of 1Cor15:1-4 , one will be gifted with God’s Holy Spirit and they will find themselves taking the orders and Commands of the Law and finding that now instead of doing things because they “ must” , they do so because they “ want to”.

Using just  the two examples previously mentioned, Under Grace I don’t “ have” to forgive ANYBODY to be saved. I “ want” to forgive others.It comes naturally from my Hew Heart. Similarly, I don’t “ have” to give a dime in order to be saved— I Give because I “want” to. Once again, my wants have been changed because of a New Heart. A New Heart for a New Age.The Age Of Grace. The same Savior that once talked Law is now talking Grace—- through Paul. Jesus said to “ follow Paul as he follows Christ”. One might think they are on the right track by “ following Jesus” —- and of course they are correct.But to follow Jesus today in this Age Of Amazing, Incredible Grace , we do things different . We do what Paul says to do, because when Paul says something , he is guided by The Holy Spirit- it’s as good as if Jesus said it Himself. 

   

Very well stated, BB.   We are under the New Covenant now....the law has been written in our hearts.   The Holy Spirit helps us to live a godly life.   As you have said, now we don't do things out of fear, but out of love.

[Blood Bought 1953]

8 hours ago, Debp said:

Very well stated, BB.   We are under the New Covenant now....the law has been written in our hearts.   The Holy Spirit helps us to live a godly life.   As you have said, now we don't do things out of fear, but out of love.

 

Yes......this is why Jesus left us with only two commandments —- “ Believe and Love”.