Popular Post Coliseum Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Romans 8:2; "For the law of the Spirit of life has freed me in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and of death." Everyone knows that gravity is a law. No matter what I throw into the air, I know it will come down. This does not just merely happen sometimes, but every time. If it only happened occasionally, it would only be a matter of history. But if it happens every single time, no matter what I do, then it is a law. And if there is nothing I can do about it, then I am a slave to it. There is nothing in me that can overcome it. There too, just like gravity, is the law of sin and death. No matter what I do to rid myself of it, I am unable to. It is a law. There is nothing I am able to do to free myself, because like gravity, it happens regardless of who I am, where I am, or what I am doing. It lives in me, and I cannot change it. It is a law. Someone whose heart has not been changed---who is not born again, is bound by the force, the influence, and the power of the law of sin and death. No exceptions. A man without Christ can only grit his teeth and make his resolutions and fail. He has no power over this law. We know that a man exercising his own will cannot free himself from the law of sin and death. Paul was the first person in the Bible to point out that sin is a law, and it is a pity that so many people do not realize that. But praise God there is another law: the law of the Spirit. It too is a law, just like the law of gravity. To the believer in Christ, he has no power to undo that law. Just like gravity, it exists whether he likes it or not. How sad so many do not believe that, but are instead trying to break the old law of sin and death themselves---something they continue trying to do, but cannot. They think that "if I have enough will power, I can break the old law and rush in the law of the Spirit all by myself." The law of the Spirit is already in the believer; he just needs to believe it. Once again, Romans 8:2; "For the law of the Spirit of life has freed me in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and of death." Believe it. Edited December 16, 2019 by Coliseum 3 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alive Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 Amen, brother. Amen. Gal. 2:20 “I have been acrucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but bChrist lives in me; and 1the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in cthe Son of God, who dloved me and egave Himself up for me. THe moment the Holy Spirit makes this real for us--everything changes. I died and yet I live. We see that His Life is now ours and that His Nature is now ours and we have been given the right to Live according to this New Nature. The Law of the Spirit of Life is at work in us---we only need to believe and trust. Amen! 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 514 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,196 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 3,358 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2019 @Coliseum & @Alive Many blessings for your post(s) for I see God is alive and well in them, as well as in you... Be so blessed as Christ being our life, and our deaths in Him, continue (as they will in all that grow in Christ) to be made more and more real and alive in you. May He form Himself in all those that call upon Him with all their hearts. A fellow laborer in Christ, Not me 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Amen brother. God Bless you in His fullness. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 514 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,196 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 3,358 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Alive said: Amen brother. God Bless you in His fullness. When I read this on your prior post my heart smiled the smile of joy; “THe moment the Holy Spirit makes this real for us--everything changes. I died and yet I live.” This is the foundation of our salvation in Christ, for as Christ had to die and be resurrected to secure our salvation we too must die and be resurrected to a new life. Though Christ’s death was a real outward thing, ours is just as real but it all happens inwardly by faith. This making real by the Spirit is the way forward. Just in the same way once seen, our deaths in Christ from that moment forward as you said all things change. Our relationship with Christ now all consists of us dying to our own wills by faith and than by faith trusting Him in and for all things looking only for what is righteousness in all things. Now for the rest of your life and walk with God it will always be a choice of Christ or self. To whom you yield yourself to him are you servants to obey. Be most blessed as only more of Christ and less of you is your inheritance. A brother in Christ. Not me Edited December 16, 2019 by Not me 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Not me said: When I read this on your prior post my heart smiled the smile of joy; “THe moment the Holy Spirit makes this real for us--everything changes. I died and yet I live.” This is the foundation of our salvation in Christ, for as Christ had to die and be resurrected to secure our salvation we too must die and be resurrected to a new life. Though Christ’s death was a real outward thing. ours is just as real but it all happens inwardly by faith. This making real by the Spirit is the way forward. Just in the same way once seen, our deaths in Christ from that moment forward as you said all things change. Our relationship with Christ now all consists of us dying to our own wills by faith and than by faith trusting Him in and for all things looking only for what is righteousness in all things. Now for the rest of your life and walk with God it will always be a choice of Christ or self. To whom you yield yourself to him are you servants to obey. Be most blessed as only more of Christ and less of you is your inheritance. A brother in Christ. Not me Amen! You have nailed it. :-) The truth of these things has the needle pointing to true north and it opens our eyes to be able to discern when the needle is off by a few degrees or many degrees. Deception and heresies (untruths) can be very subtle and often are. A slightly warped view can rob a believer of so much spiritual experience. The orthodox and hierarchal nature of much of christendom has been instrumental in this locking folks into a spiritual drain. Hear that 'sucking' sound'. That is the sound of believers stuck in carnality. Babes not getting beyond the milk and far too often never even knowing the very most basic. It all centers around one thing. 'In Christ'. Paul was really big on this. :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted December 16, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 514 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,196 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 3,358 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alive said: Amen! You have nailed it. :-) The truth of these things has the needle pointing to true north and it opens our eyes to be able to discern when the needle is off by a few degrees or many degrees. Deception and heresies (untruths) can be very subtle and often are. A slightly warped view can rob a believer of so much spiritual experience. The orthodox and hierarchal nature of much of christendom has been instrumental in this locking folks into a spiritual drain. Hear that 'sucking' sound'. That is the sound of believers stuck in carnality. Babes not getting beyond the milk and far too often never even knowing the very most basic. It all centers around one thing. 'In Christ'. Paul was really big on this. :-) Blessings as we continue to feed our one and one personal relationship with Him so that He might; “show us great and awesome things we know not” As the hearts of all that would be His, answer the call in their hearts. In Christ, Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCoot Posted December 19, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,192 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 429 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/12/1957 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I have been free from the Sinai Covenant since before I was born. I am not Jewish nor am I a proselyte to Judaism. If one studies it out, I as a gentile am forbidden to do what is prescribed in the Sinai Covenant. What I am obligated to keep is the Noachide laws. And the Council of Jerusalem headed by James affirmed that and Paul also taught that. The Sinai covenant also makes that clear. So, Yeshua did free me from the penalty of the Law, tetelostai.... paid in full. But now that I am a believer, nothing changes in regards to what law I am to observe. Just like before, I am obligated to stick to the requirements of the Noachide Laws just like James and Paul laid out. Life is so much simpler when one just studies the scripture. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted December 19, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 hours ago, OldCoot said: I have been free from the Sinai Covenant since before I was born. I am not Jewish nor am I a proselyte to Judaism. If one studies it out, I as a gentile am forbidden to do what is prescribed in the Sinai Covenant. What I am obligated to keep is the Noachide laws. And the Council of Jerusalem headed by James affirmed that and Paul also taught that. The Sinai covenant also makes that clear. So, Yeshua did free me from the penalty of the Law, tetelostai.... paid in full. But now that I am a believer, nothing changes in regards to what law I am to observe. Just like before, I am obligated to stick to the requirements of the Noachide Laws just like James and Paul laid out. Life is so much simpler when one just studies the scripture. Yes--but the key here for us is that He wrote the law on our hearts and we can walk in them as we walk in the Spirit. The walking flows from Life. This is a vital distinction and without its understanding---all heresies flow. The history of the church bears this out with great clarity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCoot Posted December 19, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,192 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 429 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/12/1957 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Alive said: Yes--but the key here for us is that He wrote the law on our hearts and we can walk in them as we walk in the Spirit. I would agree with that observation. But where folks get all goofed up is "what law"? And for many, there is only one law and one covenant in the OT. They fail to differentiate the various covenants and who they apply to. When one says "the law", they need to delineate what law they are talking about.... the Noachide Law or the Sinai/Mosaic Law. The first applies to gentiles and the latter applies to Hebrews. Even gentiles living in Israel back in the day were only required to adhere to the Noachide Laws. The Mosaic Law was not binding on them. There was even a specific Noachide court that would handle gentile issues that came up. Stuff like non kosher meat could be given to gentiles with no violation. Even in Israel, if a gentile wanted to eat shell fish and have a bacon cheese burger, it would be proper, even though it was forbidden for a Jew under the Mosaic Law . The early church got this goofed up also. The early church was comprised mostly of Jewish believers. When the gentiles started coming in, it was argued that they were the same as Jewish proselytes and had to conform to the Mosaic Law. Well, the Council of Jerusalem headed by James emphatically said no, the gentile believers do not have to conform to the Mosaic Law and that they are still under the Noachide Law. Paul makes that abundantly clear throughout his letters as well. He tells Jewish believers to not give up their Jewishness, and he tells gentile believers to stick with their position under the Noachide Law. Paul doesn't use the literal term "Noachide", but if you look at what James and Paul tell the gentiles they must observe, it is requirements of the Law given to Noah in Genesis 9. The "Noachide Law". Puts a stop to all the guilt tripping and such that goes on about having to observe the Shabbat and whatever. Edited December 19, 2019 by OldCoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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