Alive Posted July 10, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: Yes. What we could not do morally to be saved, we cannot do immorally to lose Salvation. So long as we do not turn away and go after others gods or no gods. Believing Loyalty will keep us on the right path. The whole book of Hebrews speaks to this fact. It speaks to Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians alike. It also warns against Judaizers too. Michael contradicts himself in that regard and is the only issue that I have with his teaching to date. Either there is nothing we can do morally to lose it, or not. Can't have it both ways. The New Birth is irreversible. Eternal Life cannot die. Our Life is hidden with Christ in God--it is not just a contractual agreement, it is a matter of Life and origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravindran Posted July 10, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 398 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 9:34 AM, Salvation67 said: I read on various Christian sites and forums where some say once you are saved you never sin again and some say it is a process that gradually happens as the Holy spirit works in you, and some say you simply dont want to sin again once you are saved. Can any one clear this up for me? I'm having trouble finding things on the matter in scripture. I am a new follower and could use some sound input. When a person is born again (or rengenerated), the disposition of the heart is changed. It does not mean we would make all the right decisions and never sin. It would mean that we would not keep on sinning because it would be against our nature. And every time you sin, you would feel conviction of Holy Spirit and turn back to Him. There is no concept of repentance in an unbeliever. It is all free fall! You sin and keep going down hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted July 10, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alive said: Michael contradicts himself in that regard and is the only issue that I have with his teaching to date. Either there is nothing we can do morally to lose it, or not. Can't have it both ways. The New Birth is irreversible. Eternal Life cannot die. Our Life is hidden with Christ in God--it is not just a contractual agreement, it is a matter of Life and origins. Listen to his Hebrews podcasts; they are lengthy but thorough. Only we can denounce our faith and the gospel. That is what he plainly says. If we turn our back, like the Judaizers wanted, then we 'crucify Him anew'. Edited July 10, 2020 by Justin Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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