The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 12, 2020 You have a child. Your child is very sick to the point of dying or possibly dying. You leave work, the market, the football game, whatever. You are driving home to wherever you going. Home, hospital. Not matter. You going to where your child is right now. You are speeding. Going through red lights, but carefully. Just as a firetruck would. You use the breakdown lane. Whatever. You are doing what you can to get yo your child FAST but without harming some other human. You not that heartless I mean, come on, you not me. Here comes your problem. Police. Paid people to do what they feel they must. To server and protect. They feel they are protecting others from what they see as a reckless driver, but they are not serving you by letting you alone. Slowing down for a chat with delay those last few seconds to possibly see, or save, your child. Letting the cop on a high speed chase to your destination might be fine and dandy too, but they could then jump on you, preventing you from saying your goodbyes, or being the ONLY PERSON TO SAVE YOUR BABY GIRL (or BOY). Takes a split second, one breath, for a life to be saved or loss. Oh boy do I know it. My experiences? Oh, they be mind shattering being both sides I been on. But this not about me. This about you. What would you do, or what have you done (if willing to share). DISCLAIMER (for a board administrator)- If this is not the right board for such a question, please move it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.96 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) During pilot training we were informed of 'mercy flights'. Basically ignore rules, stay safe and get it done speedily. In the case of ATC, just radio them. The same goes with 999, or 911 or whatever county's emergency phone number is. Just attempt to tell them and carry on regardless. Be safe, and get it done well. Edited March 12, 2020 by Justin Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Stop and tell them what is going on. They WILL help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said: Stop and tell them what is going on. They WILL help. If that is what YOU would do, then that is your choice. For others, they can not stop. Every second counts. Your child slit her wrists or is in a car wreck. You know every second matters. Can you chance knowing you got to your child the moment the doctor says, if only you were here 30 seconds ago?" All because you stopped for a police chat? Also, no. Not every police officer will help. Some will question you. Some want your ID. Some want you out of the car and will cuff you on the spot. Personal experiences in one way or another from the eyes in my head, believe me. So, not everyone will want to chance stopping. By the time someone got done reading this, they wasted their time instead of getting to that child of theirs. Every nano second!!! I did ask what YOU would do, and you answered. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: During pilot training we were informed of 'mercy flights'. Basically ignore rules, stay safe and get it done speedily. In the case of ATC, just radio them. The same goes with 999, or 911 or whatever county's emergency phone number is. Just attempt to tell them and carry on regardless. Be safe, and get it done well. Well, now believe it or not, all these decades of both sides of the law, I actually never heard that one before. Yea, I do not hear everything. Call 911 while on the drive for a heads up. Well, most do have cell phones so they have that benefit to do so. Not bad for the ones that can. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.96 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Survivor said: Well, now believe it or not, all these decades of both sides of the law, I actually never heard that one before. Yea, I do not hear everything. Call 911 while on the drive for a heads up. Well, most do have cell phones so they have that benefit to do so. Not bad for the ones that can. Nice. It happens more often than we know since it is kept quiet (from the dumb press) for obvious reasons. I recall an On-Star call from a woman whos brakes were failing as she went down a steep hill.. but that is unusual. Mostly the law guys will give you a convoy, like if your wife is giving birth etc. They will escort you to the hospital sometimes... Edited March 12, 2020 by Justin Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, maryjayne said: why are you asking such a thing? Breaking laws is breaking laws. There is no scale of justification. Are you looking for the thin end of the wedge as far as justifying law breaking is concerned? Call the emergency service where you are, tell them your number plate and what is going on. If emergency services have not been notified where the sick or injured child is, tell them. Get, if possible, police escort for your journey to meet you on the way. Be in touch with the hospital or wherever your child is. The child will obviously not be alone as someone has to have made a call to inform you of this situation in the first place and is with the child. You tell a work colleague, as you are leaving work, and get them to inform emergency services of your registration and direction of travel and destination. Seriously, the situation you describe is not logical or reasonable. Never once did I say this is a fake situation. As stated, I have been through it and experienced it. Please do not tell me what is logical or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, maryjayne said: its not a police chat. Its not a chat. What about all the other people you breakneck speeding and driving endangers while you are doing it? Those who are frightened and panicked by your driving behaviour and may lose control of their vehicles? Those who could swerve into another car and cause a pile up behind you or other accident? this is just silly and selfish and soap opera stuff. I'm done. And I speak as one who has been in life threatening situations and one bomb attack. Bomb attacks, you me both. I think three in my lifetimes. Once I was flagged, but a different story. Chat, you know what I mean, waiting for them to walk up to the car while you are in a panic while your mate is probably on the phone screaming for you to hurry because the ambulance is rushing to the ER or something. I remember many times having them pull out guns when I simply just said "hello." I remember having to have my hand on ready when i see them smile at me. You know, they follow rules just like everyone else, but at times, you got more pressing matters to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, maryjayne said: You asked for input. You got it. And I havent said it is a fake situation either. I am saying that the reasoning behind justifying what you did is not right. So, what happened when you got to your child? I did not confirm or deny anything I did or did not do (in terms of what laws may or may not have been broken to get to a life to save or to be there when lost), but I have been through it all and seen it. I been wondering for ages and finally just wanted to ask away here in these boards. That was all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Survivor Posted March 12, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 236 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DustyRoad said: Agreed. I'm not sure where the animosity toward law enforcement officers is coming from in the OP... but that's what I'm getting out of this. Are the police supposed to automatically know why someone is driving/behaving in a reckless manner? When such behavior is "okay?" I have my reasons to gather input from other people. Just looking for what people would do. Not what they think I should or should not have done, or what I should be thinking. So please STOP telling me what I should be thinking (seems to be an ongoing trend in these boards lately against me). Just tell me what YOU would, or would not do. Thanks. Edited March 12, 2020 by The Survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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