iamlamad Posted September 3, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2021 21 hours ago, The Light said: I'll try again. Rev 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. The wrath of God is over when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms our our Lord. Jesus has come, Armageddon has happened and the dead get judged Rev 11 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. What you see in Rev 15, martyrs in heaven, is the very thing that you see in Rev 7 with those coming out of great tribulation. How many great tribulations do you think there are? The events of the beast occur during the 6 seals. The wrath of God ended in Rev 11 and you get another view of the seals through the wrath of God. The day you start accepting what is written and believing it is the day you will begin understanding Revelation. The day you start accepting what is written and believing it is the day you will begin understanding Revelation. Why is it so difficult to believe Revelation as written? Why do you imagine you must rearrange this great book? Quote "The wrath of God is over when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms our our Lord. Jesus has come, Armageddon has happened and the dead get judged" This is nothing but imagination with nothing to prove it. "Wrath" is mentioned in this chapter: "the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come" but shows us His wrath "is come" not ended. Then we read that the vials or bowls which will be poured out future to this chapter are FILLED with His wrath. Next, there is no "coming" here: that too is nothing but wild imagination. His coming is very clearly shown in chapter 19. It would do you good to believe my axiom on Revelation: Any theory that must rearrange John's God given chronology is immediately suspect and WILL BE proven wrong. Your theories require massive rearranging. Your theories will be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted September 3, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,084 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, iamlamad said: The day you start accepting what is written and believing it is the day you will begin understanding Revelation. Why is it so difficult to believe Revelation as written? Why do you imagine you must rearrange this great book? You are great at using your imagination to dream up incorrect scenarios about what the scripture says. And yet you have absolutely no imagination on how to present a rebuttal. It's always exactly what I post. Why don't you just save some time and copy and paste my response for your response. 3 hours ago, iamlamad said: This is nothing but imagination with nothing to prove it. "Wrath" is mentioned in this chapter: "the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come" but shows us His wrath "is come" not ended. Then we read that the vials or bowls which will be poured out future to this chapter are FILLED with His wrath. You seem to want to read right past that the dead are judged and rewards are given. Is this something that you think happens in the middle of wrath? Rev 11 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And you definitely read past this verse. So do the kingdoms of the world become the kingdoms of our God in the middle of wrath? Rev 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Do you think that the mystery of God is finished in the middle of wrath? Rev 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. I'm not sure how you are able to read these verses and conclude that it occurs during the middle of wrath. The dead are judged, rewards are given, the kingdoms of the world are the kingdoms of our Lord and the mystery of God is finished. And you think these things occur in the middle of wrath? Why don't you read what it says and believe it so you don't have to dream up why the Word of God doesn't mean what it says. 3 hours ago, iamlamad said: Next, there is no "coming" here: that too is nothing but wild imagination. His coming is very clearly shown in chapter 19. It would do you good to believe my axiom on Revelation: Maybe if you realized that when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord, Christ has returned and the mystery of God is finished. If you can't find the return of Christ here, why don't you read what happens during the 7 thunders. 3 hours ago, iamlamad said: Any theory that must rearrange John's God given chronology is immediately suspect and WILL BE proven wrong. Please post where I am rearranging scripture. The seals are opened and they occur in order and includes the great tribualtion. Then the trumpets of wrath begin and occur in order. Then wrath is over and the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord. The mystery of God is finished. Everything is in order and nothing is rearranged. Then we get another view of what happens in the seals, including the great tribulation in Rev 14. Then we get another view of the wrath of God in the vials. Again, nothing is rearranged and everything is in order. It's pretty simple if you simply read what it says and believe what it says. 3 hours ago, iamlamad said: Your theories require massive rearranging. Your theories will be proven wrong. Beginning with the seals...ending with the end of wrath in Rev 11. Another view, events that occur during the seals in Rev 13 and the wrath of God ends with the last vial. Nothing is rearranged, simple as can be, just read what it says. Somehow, you have correctly identified that there will be a pretrib rapture, so kudos on that brother. Edited September 3, 2021 by The Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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