Question

[ItsJustDeep]

IF Jesus freed those who were in hell once, would or will he do it again?

 

Was there any indication Jesus would save those in Hades pre-crucifixion? Or was this an "executive decision" not prophesied beforehand?

 

Just wondering, if they got a chance..is there a chance we might?

[Not me]

5 minutes ago, Deeplytroubled said:

IF Jesus freed those who were in hell once, would or will he do it again?

 

Was there any indication Jesus would save those in Hades pre-crucifixion? Or was this an "executive decision" not prophesied beforehand?

 

Just wondering, if they got a chance..is there a chance we might?

Hi, something to consider;

If there is something that can be done to deliver the people that are in hell and God doesn’t do it, it will prove He is not good..

So the question that no man can answer is, in all of eternity, is there something that can be done? 
 

Be blessed knowing that God is good..

A fellow believer, Not me 

[Justin Adams]

26 minutes ago, Deeplytroubled said:

IF Jesus freed those who were in hell once, would or will he do it again?

All will be given a fair chance. God is fair and good.

Yeshua died 2000 or so years ago and yet He saved me 2000 years later. The apostle said that He was slain before the world began, so to see it God's way in His Omnipotent and Omnipresent way, one could easily say that BEFORE and AFTER and DURING the crucifixion and resurrection God was about saving people.

Never forget He is GOOD and He SAVES. For all time!!

[JohnD]

Every human being who ever lived was born condemned to hell (with the exception of Jesus Christ, of course).

John 3:18 (AV)
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

All who died prior to the cross of Christ went as disembodied spirits to Gehenna / Hades / Hell / Sheol which Luke 16:19-31 describes as having three chambers:

1. the side of condemnation and suffering

2. the side of promise

3. a great gulf (the abyss) between the two

Those who had faith in the Lord prior to the cross  were saved but could not enter heaven until the price for human sin had been paid once forever (Hebrews 10:10).

Jesus told the thief on the cross who professed faith in him, this day you will be with me in paradise. Luke 23:43.  Jesus gave up the Ghost about 3 hours before the

end of that Jewish day (sunset).

In that time, in his disembodied Spirit, he went to Sheol and declared the victory to all (the saved and the lost) 1 Peter 3:18-22. 

And then he led the captivity (those saved spirits in Abraham's Bosom) to heaven in that 3 hour period before the day ended in Jerusalem on Earth.

Ephesians 4:8–10 (AV)
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Now that the price for human sin has been paid, no one who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ goes to Sheol but directly to heaven as a disembodied spirit along with the

rest of the disembodied spirits already there since the cross and this Exodus of God's people from Sheol.

Jesus Christ is the only resurrected human being in heaven. The rest await resurrection in heaven. This is what is referred to as the dead in Christ shall rise first (when the

general resurrection comes).

[JohnD]

The only people Jesus brought people out of hell... were those who had faith in him according to the 

revelation of God that existed during their lifetime.

They were "captive" there until he came personally to retrieve them, once the entry into heaven price was paid

and the veil between God and man was rent in twain from top to bottom...

Hebrews 10:16–20 (AV)
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

 

 

[Guest]

Let's get one thing straight! Jesus did not bring anyone out of Hell. He brought souls out of Paradise when He Himself left there to go into Heaven.

[George]

6 hours ago, Deeplytroubled said:

IF Jesus freed those who were in hell once, would or will he do it again?

Shalom Deeplytroubled.

In this question, there is the understanding of "Abraham's Bosom" which was in Hades until the Lord released them ... however, hades was not a place of torment it seems as it was for the rest of those who departed from this world without faith.  You can read the parable in Luke 16.

6 hours ago, Deeplytroubled said:

Was there any indication Jesus would save those in Hades pre-crucifixion? Or was this an "executive decision" not prophesied beforehand?

Since Jesus is eternal ... He foreknew all that would believe and thus paved the way for their redemption even before He came to this world.

Ephesians 1:4 American Standard (ASV) 

⁴ even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love:

7 hours ago, Deeplytroubled said:

Just wondering, if they got a chance..is there a chance we might?

According to Hebrews ...

Hebrews 9:27 King James Version (KJV) 

²⁷ And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

God bless,

George

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, Rick_Parker said:

Let's get one thing straight! Jesus did not bring anyone out of Hell. He brought souls out of Paradise when He Himself left there to go into Heaven.

I agree with you. No one from Hades was released. 

[JohnD]

Sheol / Hades / Gehenna / Hell / the abode of the dead:

Luke 16:19–31 (AV)
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

This is NOT the eternal damnation (the Lake of Fire) into which death and Hades / Sheol / Gehenna / the abode of the dead will be cast into:

Revelation 20:14 (AV)
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Abraham's Bosom is the place where the captives were captive until Jesus could take them to heaven (after he paid the price for sin):

Ephesians 4:8–10 (AV)
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Note also what he did during that time:

1 Peter 3:18–19 (AV)
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

2 Peter 2:4–9 (AV)
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

The day of Judgment (as far as I can tell) is the resurrection of all humanity and the freeing of all fallen angels to bow the knee before Jesus Christ to the glory of God the Father and then all who are condemned will be cast into the Lake of Fire. 

Philippians 2:5–11 (AV)
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Before the cross no human spirit entered heaven. They went to the place of torment if they did not have faith in God's revelation in their day or to the place of comfort if the had faith in God's revelation in their day. Abraham (the father of faith) believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness. Once the sin debt was paid, Jesus personally led the human spirits of faith into heaven.

2 Corinthians 5 (AV)
1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
12 For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.
13 For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Romans 8:23 (AV)
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

[JohnD]

Abraham's Bosom is not paradise, btw.

Paradise appears only 3 times in scripture: Luke 23:43 2 Corinthians 12:4 Revelation 2:7.

The BODY of Jesus was in the heart of the Earth (the tomb) 3 days 3 nights. His Spirit was

quite busy in the 3 hours from his body's death on the cross at 3PM until sunset 6PM ending that

same day he was crucified. He went to Sheol, proclaimed the victory to all there (in every chamber),

then took the captives (in Abraham's Bosom) to heaven before close of day in Jerusalem Israel.

He was not in Earth or under the Earth for 3 days 3 nights but less than 3 hours. The rest of the time 

he was spending his last 3 days without a body in heaven.

Until the incarnation, he was God the Word from all eternity without a body. Since the resurrection, he will 

forever be God the Word incarnate (in a resurrected human body).

1 John 3:2 (AV)
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

We will be resurrected humans (like him).

We will not be God incarnate like him, obviously.

But he will be God incarnate (God and man) forever.

Colossians 1:17–22 (AV)
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Romans 8:29 (AV)
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.