Bowman's Challenge

[Daniel Marsh]

"I started my article with the following statement of its purpose: “I am going to tell you exactly what you need to do in order to defend your non-Trinitarian position as a superior alternative to the Trinitarian view.” Here are the five guidelines I provided:

Refute one or more of the essential propositions of the doctrine of the Trinity.
Present a clear alternative to the doctrine of the Trinity.
Identify the religion associated with that alternative to Trinitarian Christianity.
Show that your alternative theology does not suffer from the defects you claim to find in Trinitarianism.
Demonstrate that your theology explains the full range of biblical information better than the doctrine of the Trinity."
https://robertbowman.net/
https://credohouse.org/blog/author/rob-bowman
http://www.credocourses.com/
https://credohouse.org/blog/author/rob-bowman
https://independent.academia.edu/RobertBowmanJr
http://irr.org/
https://robertbowman.net/

[steve morrow]

WHO  IS  LORD  OF  LORDS  AND  KING  OF  KINGS 

PSALM 50:16  but unto the wicked  GOD  saith what hast thou to do to declare my statutes or that thou shouldest take  MY  covenant in thy mouth --50:17--seeing thou hatest instruction and castest  --MY  WORDS  BEHIND  THEE--

JOHN 12:46  I am come a light into the world that whosoever believeth on  ME  should not abide in darkness 

 

JOB 38:2  who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge

 

HEBREWS 5:9  and being made perfect  HE  became the --AUTHOR  OF  ETERNAL  SALVATION-- unto all them that obey --HIM--

PSALM 119:130  the entrance of thy words giveth light it giveth understanding unto to the simple

 

1 JOHN 2:10  HE  THAT  LOVETH  HIS  BROTHER  ABIDETH  IN  THE  LIGHT  AND  THERE  IS  NONE  OCCASION  OF  STUMBLING  IN  HIM

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

[branchesofHim]

Colossians 1:[10] That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
[11] Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;
[12] Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
[13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
[14] In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

1 John 5:[7] For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 17:[22] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

Romans 12:[5] So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

[steve morrow]

FIRSTBORN!!

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COLOSSIANS 1:15  WHO  IS  THE  IMAGE  OF  THE  INVISIBLE  GOD  --- THE  FIRSTBORN  OF  EVERY  CREATURE---

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PROVERBS 8:27  when  HE  prepared the heavens --I  WAS  THERE-- when  HE  set a compass upon the face of the earth  --8:28-- when  HE  established the clouds above when  HE  strengthened the fountains of the deep  --8:29--  when  HE  gave to the sea  HIS  decree that the waters should not pass  ---HIS  COMMANDMENT--- when  HE  appointed the foundations of the earth 

--8:30-- THEN  I  WAS  BY  HIM  AS  ONE  BROUGHT  UP  WITH  HIM-- and  I was daily  HIS  delight rejoicing always before  HIM  --8:31-- rejoicing in the habitable part of  HIS  earth and  MY  delights  were with the sons of men 

--8:32-- now therefore hearken unto  ME  o you children for blessed are they --THAT  KEEP  MY  WAYS--

--8:33--  HEAR INSTRUCTION --- AND  BE  WISE --- AND  REFUSE  IT  NOT 

--8:34-- blessed is the man that heareth  ME  watching daily at  MY  gates waiting at the posts of  MY  doors

 

--8:35-- FOR  WHOSO  FINDETH  ME  FINDETH  LIFE  AND  SHALL  OBTAIN  FAVOR  OF  THE  LORD 

--8:36-- BUT  HE  THAT  SINNETH  AGAINST  ME  WRONGETH  HIS  OWN  SOUL  --- ALL  THEY  THAT  HATE  ME  LOVE  DEATH 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

[Daniel Marsh]

"For we read how the Lord said, I am the light of the world. Thence arose a question, lest any one, carnally understanding this, should fancy this light to mean the sun: we came thence to the psalm, which having considered, we found meanwhile that the Lord is the fountain of life. Drink and live. With You, it says, is the fountain of life; therefore, under the shadow of Your wings the sons of men hope, seeking to be full drunk with this fountain. But we were speaking of the Light. Follow on, then; for the prophet, having said, With You is the fountain of life, went on to add, In Your light shall we see light,— God of God, Light of Light. By this Light the sun's light was made; and the Light which made the sun, under which He also made us, was made under the sun for our sake. That Light which made the sun, was made, I say, under the sun for our sake. "

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1701034.htm

[Daniel Marsh]

"

That was the true Light, which lights every man that comes into the world.

1. Nothing hinders us from handling today also the same words, since before we were prevented by the setting forth of doctrines, from considering all that was read. Where now are those who deny that He is true God? For here He is called the true Light John 14:6, and elsewhere very Truth and very Life. That saying we will discuss more clearly when we come to the place; but at present we must for a while be speaking to your Charity of that other matter.

If He lights every man that comes into the world, how is it that so many continue unenlightened? For not all have known the majesty of Christ. How then does He light every man? He lights all as far as in Him lies. But if some, wilfully closing the eyes of their mind, would not receive the rays of that Light, their darkness arises not from the nature of the Light, but from their own wickedness, who willfully deprive themselves of the gift."

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/240108.htm

 

 

[Daniel Marsh]

So far none have raised to Bowman's Challenge:

 

1.Refute one or more of the essential propositions of the doctrine of the Trinity.
2. Present a clear alternative to the doctrine of the Trinity.
3. Identify the religion associated with that alternative to Trinitarian Christianity.
4. Show that your alternative theology does not suffer from the defects you claim to find in Trinitarianism.
5. Demonstrate that your theology explains the full range of biblical information better than the doctrine of the Trinity."
https://robertbowman.net/

[steve morrow]

IS  IT  NOT  TRUE  THAT  THERE  IS  NO  DOCTRINE  OF  TRINITY  FROM  THE  FATHER  OR  JESUS  CHRIST

 

JOHN 10:30  I  AND  MY  FATHER  ARE  ONE 

 

JOHN 7:16  JESUS  ANSWERED  THEM  AND  SAID  MY  DOCTRINE  IS  NOT  MINE  BUT  --HIS  THAT  SENT  ME--

 

2 JOHN 1:9  whosoever transgresseth and ---ABIDETH  NOT  IN  THE  DOCTRINE  OF  CHRIST--- HATH  NOT  GOD --- he that abideth in the doctrine of  CHRIST  he hath --BOTH-- THE  FATHER  AND  THE  SON --

--1:10-- IF  there come any unto you --AND  BRING  NOT  THIS  DOCTRINE -- receive him not into your house neither bid him  GOD  speed 

 

ISAIAH 55:2  wherefore do you spend money for that which is not bread and your labor for that which satisfieth not --HEARKEN  DILIGENTLY  UNTO  ME-- and eat that which is good and let your your soul delight itself in fatness

JOHN 6:48  I  AM  THAT  BREAD  OF  LIFE    --6:49-- YOUR  FATHERS  did eat manna in the wilderness and are dead    --6:50--  this is the bread which cometh from heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die 

 

JEREMIAH  18:12  and they said there is no hope but we will walk after our own devices and we will every one do ---THE  IMAGINATION  OF  HIS  EVIL  HEART-

 

1 CORINTHIANS 3:19  for the wisdom of this world is foolishness with  GOD  for it is written  HE  TAKETH  THE  WISE  IN THEIR  OWN  CRAFTINESS   --3:20--  AND  AGAIN  THE  LORD  KNOWETH  THE  THOUGHTS  OF  THE  WISE  THAT  THEY  ARE  VAIN 

 

 

LOVING  &  TRUSTING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST