LonerAndy Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 693 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 396 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2020 I have never been so ashamed of my Church before. They have never done anything like this in the past. To their credit, it wasn't the pastor. It was some guy who I had never heard of. But he got up there, as a white guy, and told me about how racists the country is against blacks. He said on stage that black people were more likely to die from a police officer, than from homicide. Really. As if Police go out in hunting parties, to mow down black people. Then he told us that we should go out and prioritize relationships with black people. The entire sermon was almost a political stunt, with lies, and blatant patronizing of blacks. They should have had at the end of the sermon "This message is brought to you buy the DNC". Now if I talk to any black man in the church, he's going to be wondering if I actually give a rip about him, or if I'm just patronizing him because this guy said I'm supposed to prioritize relationships with blacks. I hope my church never does something like this again. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 903 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Your call, if course, but if it was me I'd leave that apostate joint like my hair was on fire. Life is simply too short to put up with lousy churches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I would have gotten up and walked out. Probably would have muttered something out loud, too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortangel Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2020 i would recomend finding another church family, pray & and ask God where he would like you to fellowship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LonerAndy Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 693 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 396 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2019 Status: Offline Author Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, John Robinson said: Your call, if course, but if it was me I'd leave that apostate joint like my hair was on fire. Life is simply too short to put up with lousy churches. No, I'm not. The Church is filled with human beings just like me, that make mistakes all the time, just like me. If it was the senior pastor that preached this, I might have a problem. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, that they didn't know what this guy was going to say. I would want another chance. Wouldn't you? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonerAndy Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 693 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 396 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Rick_Parker said: I would have gotten up and walked out. Probably would have muttered something out loud, too. I'm not sure what this says about my church, but they have decided to not open until mid august. So this was a live online sermon. I was still horrified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonerAndy Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 693 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 396 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Pray for Cypress Church in Ohio. I can bet that my email to the church's leadership, will be one of many. I hope they gain wisdom from this, and do better. If they turn the church into a political stump, then I will not be able to go there anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 hours ago, LonerAndy said: Then he told us that we should go out and prioritize relationships with black people Was this at church or an online service? Either way let the minister/elders of your church know that you think politics are best left out of church and sermons. That the purpose of sermons is to educate about Jesus or the bible and to apply it to our lives. If your church lets you know who is preaching next week keep an eye out for this guy and don't go if his name appears? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonerAndy Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 693 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 396 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Who me said: Was this at church or an online service? Either way let the minister/elders of your church know that you think politics are best left out of church and sermons. That the purpose of sermons is to educate about Jesus or the bible and to apply it to our lives. If your church lets you know who is preaching next week keep an eye out for this guy and don't go if his name appears? If I I have to check who is preaching to determine if I go to church, then I'm in the wrong church. I already sent a message to the church leadership, which simply said "I'm ashamed of (the church)". The pastor sent an email to me, and mentioned in there, the exact problem. So my guess is, he's already gotten some massive feedback from this. He's a good man. A very good man. I don't think they realized what this guy was going to say on stage. Our church decided not to open until mid august, so this was an online live sermon. I don't think this will happen again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted July 19, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, LonerAndy said: don't think they realized what this guy was going to say on stage. That is good to know. In my church we are told who will be preaching next week, some churches have a preaching plan setting out who is preaching at what church for the next three months. Sounds like there was an error of judgement. May I suggest you be as supportive of the minister as you are able as there will be lots of grumbling etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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