My take on water baptism

[Peterlag]

1 hour ago, Don19 said:

What about 1 Cor 1:13-17?

 

We don't know when Paul baptized. It could have been at the beginning out of tradition and common practice before the Church of God had become established. Also the context seems to be I don't teach this stuff and that's why he says I was not called to do this. And number 3 that comes to my mind is water is not mentioned.

[Peterlag]

15 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

In acts 10 Peter baptize people after they hv rcvd Holy Spirit n spoke in tongue.

 

Probably not with water.

[Peterlag]

7 hours ago, appy said:

In Acts 10, we read of Cornelius being baptized with water after receiving the Holy Spirit.  Cornelius and all with him that day received the Holy Spirit upon hearing and believing the gospel.  Cornelius was a devout man, but he needed to hear the message of the gospel.  The moment a person believes the gospel message and puts his/her faith in Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes into a person's heart, and he or she is born again. The story of Cornelius and the men at Ephesus (Acts 19) teach that we humans need to hear and believe the gospel and that at the moment of believing we receive the Holy Spirit.
 
Nowhere in Scripture are we told to be baptized  in or by the Spirit, or in any sense to seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:12–13 is the key passage in the Bible regarding the baptism of the Holy Spirit:

“For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free, and we were all given the one Spirit to drink”.  Notice that we “all” have been baptized by the Spirit all believers have received the baptism, synonymous with salvation, and it is not a special experience for only a few”.

Romans 6:3-5
Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.

But Matthew 28:19 commands us to be water baptized.

“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, “

Water baptism is a public testimony and confession of faith in identifying with Christ in his death, burial, and resurrection. But in order to truly testify, one must not only have faith in Jesus, (that is to believe) but also have been willing or at the least a desire to turn from all known sin (repent). Because the then visual testimony of water baptism is the public affirmation that the person has died to self and turning to a new life in Christ.

One thing I do want to point out in closing is that the Holy Spirit did not die for us, only Jesus died for us. So we are NOT baptized in the Holy Spirit, for He is already residing in our hearts the hour we first believed the message of the gospel.

 

Acts 10:48 does not say they were baptized in water. Water baptism is not taught in any of the Epistles written by Paul or any other Apostle. All that can be known for the Church of God concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ is in those Epistles. And water is not in there.

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17 minutes ago, Peterlag said:

Acts 10:48 does not say they were baptized in water. Water baptism is not taught in any of the Epistles written by Paul or any other Apostle. All that can be known for the Church of God concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ is in those Epistles. And water is not in there.

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[daytrader]

I grew up in the Churches of Christ and most don't consider others christians who haven't been water baptized.

I addressed this recently on my podcast on 'The Neptune Project.'

but really, here is something from Acts 16 that is interesting

 

³¹ They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.” ³² Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. ³³ At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized. 

 

so something in this passage "They they spoke the word of the lord to him" was obviously important. Possibly a command in that WORD for baptism and something immediately that needed to be done....it obviously plays a role in fulfilling salvation by belief.

Now, i addressed this recently in the churches of christ in that I personally believe God can save someone without baptism, such as an elderly woman in a nursing home who can't get to a baptistry obviously.

but ordinarily, i don't teach belief without baptism as Jesus went through his baptism that being "the death burial and resurrection." remember, he said he had a baptism to undergo.

so we too out of respect for God (Jesus said, it is proper (respect) for us to do this) need to participate in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.

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13 hours ago, ChickenCoop said:

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