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Jesus returning at the Battle of Armageddon is inconsistent with a post-tribulation rapture


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26 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

You cannot take such immature conclusion that tares are gathered first, look at this : the wheat are gather first :

Luke 3:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.                          

No sinners are removed as the Revelation says unGodly mankind shall perish by the judgment of trumpets and Vials and Seals opening.

 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-30.htm

The Lord says the TARES are gathered FIRST to be burned. 

Then gathered the wheat into the barn. 

 

 

Maybe you just didn't know the Lord had said this before you responded so rudely. Perhaps you should spend more time paying attention to what Jesus says and less time being rude. 

 

 

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On 8/29/2020 at 4:08 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

Thing is. Noah wasn't taken away. Noah remained on the earth long after the sinners were all taken away. 

It's the samr with the coming of Jesus. The tares are first gathered and burned. Then the wheat is gathered into the barn. 

The sinners are removed and the meek inherit the earth. 

So do you think the tares are with the wheat? Maybe tares and wheat make up the Church? All the rest are just rebels and are not the ones referenced as "wheat and tares"?

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26 minutes ago, Diaste said:

So do you think the tares are with the wheat? Maybe tares and wheat make up the Church? All the rest are just rebels and are not the ones referenced as "wheat and tares"?

From my understanding. 

The beast is a kingdom.I believe that kingdom to be the land which was promised to Abraham and his seed. The seed, being Christ. I believe when Christ comes during a war in which that kingdom is totally destroyed by fire, that all in that kingdom who do not belong to Christ will be removed from that kingdom and the saints in that kingdom will be saved. The saints who have been killed for thier testimony of Christ will be resurrected and shall reign with Christ over that kingdom. 

So you know what countries are within the boundaries of that promised land(Eurprates to the Nile) and you know that there are few who belong to Christ. The majority are Muslim and deny that Christ is the Son of God. The majority in the little country called Israel are also antichrist denying Jesus is the Christ. 

That entire kingdom will be cast into a fire. Only those in Christ will remain in that kingdom after the fire goes out. 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-41.htm

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5 hours ago, Diaste said:

So do you think the tares are with the wheat? Maybe tares and wheat make up the Church? All the rest are just rebels and are not the ones referenced as "wheat and tares"?

I believe God will use this man and the weapons his country processes to remove the occupants of the promised land. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

Egypt, a country whos north eastern cities lay within the promised land is one of the countries that is said to be destroyed by this KOTN. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-42.htm

To give us an idea what types of weapons he might use, scripture says no one will be able to live in Egypt for 40 years. No one will even set foot there. 

https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/29-11.htm

This tells me that he will probably use  low altitude or surface detonation nuclear weapons with a high radioactive fallout. 

Perhaps he uses low altitude nukes to be sure the pirimids don't survive the blast?One thing for sure, if God say no one will live in Egypt for 40 years then they won't. 

This is the plague God says he shall afflict the people of Egypt with. The effects of extreme instant heat. 

https://biblehub.com/kjv/zechariah/14-12.htm

Lastly, we find the survivors who inherit the kingdom standing on what appears to be glass and fire. 

https://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/15-2.htm

I believe the glass to be trinitite.A type of glass from a nuclear explosion. A nuclear holocaust. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

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