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11 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Actually the beast is a kingdom consisting of ten Muslim nations and Israel which is represented by the little horn in Daniel. The prostitute which is a city which sits on seven hills in this kingdom is Jerusalem and her children. The ten nations represented by ten horns hate the prostitute and will make her naked. 

After they have taken control of Jerusalem the entire kingdom is destroyed by fire. The kingdom will then be given to  the seed of Abraham, forever. 

 

The prophecy doesn't have anything to do with most of the world. Not Russia China or Brazil. It's about the promised land. 

The beast currently consists of 7 heads, as in the G-7, five of which have had their day of prominence in the past, one is currently in charge, and one is still to be in charge. The 10 horns (military powers) of the beast are of the seven heads nations, who after its currently in charge head secedes into four military powers, shall then be ten horns of the seven headed beast.

Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

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5 minutes ago, luigi said:

The beast currently consists of 7 heads, as in the G-7, five of which have had their day of prominence in the past, one is currently in charge, and one is still to be in charge. The 10 horns (military powers) of the beast are of the seven heads nations, who after its currently in charge head secedes into four military powers, shall then be ten horns of the seven headed beast.

Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

The seven heads are seven mountains on which the prostitute sits. The prostitute is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth. 

It has nothing to do with the world. It's a city. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/17-18.htm

It's the word of God. 

 

PS. No one in the G7 is even the slightest bit interested in Jerusalem. 

It's the Muslim nations who want to liberate Jerusalem. 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The seven heads are seven mountains on which the prostitute sits. The prostitute is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth. 

It has nothing to do with the world. It's a city. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/17-18.htm

It's the word of God. 

 

PS. No one in the G7 is even the slightest bit interested in Jerusalem. 

It's the Muslim nations who want to liberate Jerusalem. 

 

 

 

 

Mountains in the bible are often a metaphor in reference to large nations, while hills are usually in reference to small nations. As such the great city on which the great whore sits, who all the kings of the earth take their direction from (Revelation 17:18), is the city whose economic policies (in the currently ruling head nation) dictate worldwide agenda. Can you guess what city the world's nations economic policies currently are subject to?

Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

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2 minutes ago, luigi said:

Mountains in the bible are often a metaphor in reference to large nations, while hills are usually in reference to small nations. As such the great city on which the great whore sits, who all the kings of the earth take their direction from (Revelation 17:18), is the city whose economic policies (in the currently ruling head nation) dictate worldwide agenda. Can you guess what city the world's nations economic policies currently are subject to?

Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

According to scripture the ten horns of the beast hate the prostitute and will make her desolate. 

According to scripture the prostitute is a city. 

According to scripture they attack the city of Jerusalem which is situated on seven hills. 

 

I didn't need to guess what city they hate or what city they attack. 

According to scripture the two witnesses who occupy Jerusalem will torment them for 42 months. 

Sounds like Jerusalem rules over them up to the time they make that city desolate. 

 

There is really no need to guess. Scripture shows us what city it is. 

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20 minutes ago, luigi said:

The beast currently consists of 7 heads, as in the G-7, five of which have had their day of prominence in the past, one is currently in charge, and one is still to be in charge. The 10 horns (military powers) of the beast are of the seven heads nations, who after its currently in charge head secedes into four military powers, shall then be ten horns of the seven headed beast.

Luigi,

At the time that John had his visions, five of the empires had come and gone.  One was currently active (Rome), and one was still to come (The Ottoman Empire).  All seven of these empires are now in our past and the only thing left is for the last empire to be resurrected so that it can bring about the Great Tribulation.

The ten horns on the beast with seven heads indicate that ten countries will come together in order to resurrect the Ottoman Empire as an Islamic Caliphate.

The horn that was broken and replaced by four smaller horn is a reference the the Grecian empire under Alexander the Great and his four generals.  Currently the beast does not exists, but it will reappear when we see the Islamic Caliphate  forming.

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2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

According to scripture the ten horns of the beast hate the prostitute and will make her desolate. 

According to scripture the prostitute is a city. 

According to scripture they attack the city of Jerusalem which is situated on seven hills. 

 

I didn't need to guess what city they hate or what city they attack. 

According to scripture the two witnesses who occupy Jerusalem will torment them for 42 months. 

Sounds like Jerusalem rules over them up to the time they make that city desolate. 

 

There is really no need to guess. Scripture shows us what city it is. 

Come on Shiohsfoal, Does Jerusalem reign over the kings of the earth? No it does not. NYC and Wall streets economic policy rule over the kings of the earth, and is therefore deemed responsible for all the murders committed throughout the planet.

Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. 

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8 minutes ago, John n Claudia said:

Luigi,

At the time that John had his visions, five of the empires had come and gone.  One was currently active (Rome), and one was still to come (The Ottoman Empire).  All seven of these empires are now in our past and the only thing left is for the last empire to be resurrected so that it can bring about the Great Tribulation.

John n Claudia, According to the Word there have been 5 heads who have already had their day of prominence prior to the beasts ascension from the bottomless pit (a.k.a., the sea).

Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

 

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9 minutes ago, luigi said:

Come on Shiohsfoal, Does Jerusalem reign over the kings of the earth? No it does not. NYC and Wall streets economic policy rule over the kings of the earth, and is therefore deemed responsible for all the murders committed throughout the planet.

Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-39.htm

 

Jerusalem shall soon be ruling over many. You don't believe the word of God? The two witness will do to those ten nations as they please for 42 months. Then they will get thier revenge on Jerusalem. 

 

While you wait for the beast to attack NY, God has plainly stated they will attack Jerusalem but you don't believe him. 

 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-7.htm

 

Which of those ten nations in the promised land do you say can defeat Jerusalem? 

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9 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-39.htm

 

Jerusalem shall soon be ruling over many. You don't believe the word of God? The two witness will do to those ten nations as they please for 42 months. Then they will get thier revenge on Jerusalem. 

 

 

Jerusalem ruling over all the world's nations is when the Lord commences to reign through His saints in Jerusalem, and the nation of Israel/Zion becomes the largest of mountains/nations in the world. This occurs after the current land of Israel/Zion is desolated by the abomination of desolation, at the conclusion of which the Gentile unbelievers shall tread Jerusalem underfoot for the 42 month period of the beast, at the conclusion of which the Lord will then commence His gathering of His saints from the four winds to His barn in Zion.

Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

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8 minutes ago, luigi said:

John n Claudia, According to the Word there have been 5 heads who have already had their day of prominence prior to the beasts ascension from the bottomless pit (a.k.a., the sea).

This was true at the time John had his vision and wrote the prophecy.  Over 1900 years have passed since then and the other heads have also now had their day of prominence and passed away.

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