Marilyn C Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,206 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 10:15 AM, ENOCH2010 said: Marilyn, clear would be you don't believe Christ will reign on this earth for 1000 years. Hi Enoch, That`s correct. The Lord Jesus Christ will rule from His own throne in the highest, (Rev. 3: 21) not from His footstool, the earth. (Isa. 66: 1) He will rule through the nation of Israel over the other nations of the earth in the millennium and also in the New Earth. That was promised to Israel. (Micah 4: 1 - 3) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,206 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 3:23 AM, WilliamL said: Matt. 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Luke 1:32 “He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” The Kingdom of David is earthly, not heavenly. Hi Wiliam, I also believe that the rulership, (kingdom) of David is on earth. The Lord Jesus Christ will rule through His regent, King David, (Jer. 30: 9, Ez. 37: 24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,206 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 9:35 AM, Uriah said: Hi Marilyn I have said most of things before regarding my view of these things. We will be with Jesus forever, We will reign with Him and sit on His throne. His throne will be in New Jerusalem which come out of heaven from God. It will not "land" on the Earth but remain above it. Nations will walk in its light. He/we will reign as He does now-from above. Just as a king once reigned on this land from across an ocean it will be so then as well. Hi Uriah, You need to look carefully at the New Jerusalem coming down. It comes OUT of heaven, and FROM God. The Lord Jesus Christ will certainly have His `throne,` authority there, however His seat of power and authority is higher up in the third heaven. If you place the Lord`s highest seat of power and authority in the New Jerusalem then you are placing Him - below the angels, below where even Lucifer ruled, and that is NOT making Him pre-eminent over ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,364 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Marilyn C said: Hi Uriah, You need to look carefully at the New Jerusalem coming down. It comes OUT of heaven, and FROM God. The Lord Jesus Christ will certainly have His `throne,` authority there, however His seat of power and authority is higher up in the third heaven. If you place the Lord`s highest seat of power and authority in the New Jerusalem then you are placing Him - below the angels, below where even Lucifer ruled, and that is NOT making Him pre-eminent over ALL. Hi Marilyn, This could be contradictory. Throne vs seat of power? Same thing, no? Rev. 21:2 & 3- And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Also, continuing the description of NJ in the next chapter... Rev. 22:3- And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: No matter where God's throne is, nothing/nobody is above Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted October 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Marilyn C said: Hi Enoch, That`s correct. The Lord Jesus Christ will rule from His own throne in the highest, (Rev. 3: 21) not from His footstool, the earth. (Isa. 66: 1) He will rule through the nation of Israel over the other nations of the earth in the millennium and also in the New Earth. That was promised to Israel. (Micah 4: 1 - 3) The Bible clearly says the New Jerusalem comes down from the heavens to the new Earth where the Lord will dwell with man. Rev: 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,364 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ENOCH2010 said: The Bible clearly says the New Jerusalem comes down from the heavens to the new Earth where the Lord will dwell with man. Rev: 21 Hi Enoch, My view is a bit different from this, that is, you mean that the city will come down ONTO the surface of the Earth. It would completely cover Israel and other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Posted October 4, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,364 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, ENOCH2010 said: Yes Not sure what this means, Enoch. Are you thinking the city will come down and squash thes nations beneath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Uriah said: Not sure what this means, Enoch. Are you thinking the city will come down and squash thes nations beneath? Yes again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,364 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ENOCH2010 said: Yes again Wow! OK, how will that work? Crush His own people...land? I have read that if it were as seen below (an attempt at scale) one would need to excavate to the depth of 70 miles at its center so the entire base would be at ground level. My belief is that it will remain above the Earth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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