Leenaa Posted November 14, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) What living hell would make You quit and jump off a rooftop? Edited November 14, 2020 by Leenaa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted November 14, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Leenaa said: What Nightmare would make You quit and jump off a rooftop? Wow, that would have to be an extreme dream! Hehe. I can't say I can think of one that bad if I knew it was a dream. Have you had a nightmare that bad or an idea of one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leenaa Posted November 14, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tzephanyahu said: Have you had a nightmare that bad or an idea of one? I meant something in real life, not a dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted November 14, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,190 Content Per Day: 7.07 Reputation: 13,175 Days Won: 98 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2020 I will pray for your deliverance. How many times did I try to quit? Too many to number, @Leenaa. For the longest time I could not comprehend why I lived while so many others have died and in the darkness, living was a curse I longed to be freed of. I likened my existence to a living hell, a nightmare without beginning or end, so I understand what is meant by your words. This is a hard thing to hear and perhaps understand but it is nevertheless the truth. In desperation we empty ourselves of this vainglorious flesh, accounting our own life as grass in the field and the measure of it like the flowers which fade, only to discover that those who lose their life shall surely keep it. Those who seek to keep their life shall certainly lose it. This is a spiritual truth in Jesus Christ and because I know you belong to the Good Shepherd, I also know that we are called upon to suffer as He suffered. This life isn't yours to surrender under your own volition just as it isn't mine to yield in a similar manner. I will not cease speaking to the Lord on your behalf, dear sister, for your suffering is close to my heart. Remember this: quitting isn't an option for on that day when the Son of God claimed us as His own, we ceased living for ourselves and started living for Him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Leenaa said: I meant something in real life, not a dream Why don't you try sharing what you think might be enough. Maybe we can help you get through it? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,021 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,333 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,378 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Leenaa said: What living hell would make You quit and jump off a rooftop? 3 hours ago, JohnD said: Why don't you try sharing what you think might be enough. Maybe we can help you get through it? Leenaa, I agree with JohnD. Why don't you share what this is about with us? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leenaa Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 hours ago, JohnD said: Why don't you try sharing what you think might be enough. Maybe we can help 2 hours ago, Debp said: Leenaa, I agree with JohnD. Why don't you share what this is about with us? That would be anoher topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uri Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 97 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Leenaa said: What living hell would make You quit and jump off a rooftop? If you left me for ANOTHER super handsome, witty, adorably hilarious guy...I think I might go bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Leenaa said: That would be anoher topic. Well, if you are just looking for an opinion, then, it all boils down to first knowing beyond the shadow of doubt that you are eternally saved. And there's only one way to be positive of that (which would be yet another topic). Because suicide in an unsaved condition would be making yourself even more worse off than you are for eternal hell is far worse than any reason any one could have in this life to commit suicide. So don't do it yet!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2020 This is how the Son of God described temporary hell (which is the holding pattern of the dead until the eternal hell after judgment day described in Revelation 20). Luke 16:19–31 (AV) 19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. The spirits of people on the side called Abraham's Bosom (verse 23) were all taken to heaven after the cross of Christ made human access to heaven possible (Ephesians 4:8-10). So that chamber of temporary hell (the grave of spirits / Sheol) is empty. In death, believers in the true Jesus Christ go directly to heaven in spirit. BUT! beware there are many false / counterfeit Jesus Christs. Jesus said so himself: Matthew 24:24 (AV) 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Note that the elect (the saved) cannot be deceived by false Christs. ← there's only one way to be that sure/ that certain that you believe in the genuine / true / authentic Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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