Starise Posted January 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,125 Content Per Day: 9.67 Reputation: 13,656 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 Here's a link to a book containing the extra book in the Ethiopian Bible. I don't claim to know anything about it. I might buy it out of curiosity. Looks like a few of the same books in the Catholic Bible which I know to be suspect, so I would approach this with apprehension and maybe a little skepticism personally. Neither would I immediately throw it all out because it isn't in our canon. https://www.amazon.com/Books-Ethiopian-Bible-Missing-Protestant/dp/1695857968 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted January 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.52 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2021 16 hours ago, Josheb said: Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song. In the Jewish structure these were categorized as the "art" or "literature" section of Tanakh. They are not strictly speaking history or prophesy, etc. They stand together as a separate section and exegetically they carry something of their own dynamics. Ah, I see. I know those books as "wisdom literature". I hadn't heard them called "art" before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted January 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.52 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Starise said: When it comes to scripture study, we need to define "all". All of what? Who defines what all is? We can see different scholars see "all" in different ways as concerning the canon and particular scripture differently. I have not looked into this but I have heard the Ethiopian Bible has a few more books in it. This would not surprise me if true. The Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox denominations have some VERY dubious books in their Bibles, even more so than the Eastern Orthodox, who have more than the Roman Catholics. All of those organisations persecute genuine believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. Some of these extra books contain outright false teachings, which contradict the real canon of Scripture (e.g. 2 Maccabees). Some of them are like poor quality copies of real books (e.g. Ecclesiasticus is like a downgraded version of Proverbs). The believing Church (i.e. not Roman Catholicism, nor so-called Orthodox denominations, nor Liberals), which believes the true gospel (salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone) has, for many centuries, accepted the 66 books that we call canon, and rejected the others. Edited January 8, 2021 by David1701 typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted January 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.52 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2021 53 minutes ago, Josheb said: Yes, of course. The salient point is that we don't exegete those books in exactly the same manner we do other types of scripture. Each "type" carries with it a requirement to entreat it on its own grounds. The greater challenge is when genres overlap, such as a section of "wisdom literature" occurring in a book of history, or prophesy occurring in an epistle. So a good grounding in the precepts of sound exegesis is incumbent upon us with knowledge of how these precepts are applied to the various forms of scripture. Agreed. Oh, and, you might want to change "entreat" to "treat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted January 9, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,059 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 376 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted January 9, 2021 UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS LUKE 1:3 IT SEEMED GOOD TO ME ALSO ---HAVING HAD PERFECT UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THINGS FROM THE VERY FIRST TO WRITE UNTO THEE IN ORDER MOST EXCELLENT THEOPHILUS ACTS 1:1 THE FORMER TREATISE HAVE I MADE O THEOPHILUS OF ALL THAT JESUS BEGAN BOTH TO DO AND TEACH ACTS 22:7 and I fell unto the ground and heard a voice saying unto me ---SAUL SAUL WHY PERSECUTEST THOU ME--- --22:8-- and I answered who art thou LORD and HE said unto me ---I AM JESUS OF NAZARETH WHOM THOU PERSECUTEST --22:9-- and they that were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid but they heard not the voice HIM that spake to me --22:10-- and I said what shall I do LORD and THE LORD said unto me --- ARISE AND GO INTO DAMASCUS AND THERE IT SHALL BE TOLD THEE OF --- ALL THINGS WHICH ARE APPOINTED FOR THEE TO DO ACTS 22:17 AND IT CAME TO PASS THAT WHEN I WAS COME AGAIN TO JERUSALEM EVEN WHILE I PRAYED IN THE TEMPLE I WAS IN A TRANCE --22:18-- AND SAW HIM SAYING UNTO ME --- MAKE HAST AND GET THEE QUICKLY OUT OF JERUSALEM FOR THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE THY TESTIMONY CONCERNING ME *******1 TIMOTHY 1:11 ACCORDING TO THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL OF THE BLESSED GOD WHICH WAS COMMITTED TO MY TRUST******* 1 CORINTHIANS 15:7 AFTER THAT HE WAS SEEN OF JAMES THEN OF ALL THE APOSTLES --15:8--AND LAST OF ALL HE WAS SEEN OF ME ALSO AS ONE BORN OUT OF DUE TIME --15:9-- FOR I AM THE LEAST OF THE APOSTLES THAT AM NOT MEET TO BE CALLED AN APOSTLE BECAUSE I PERSECUTED THE CHURCH OF GOD --15:10-- BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD I AM WHAT I AM AND HIS GRACE WHICH WAS BESTOWED UPON ME WAS NOT IN VAIN BUT I LABOURED MORE ABUNTANTLY THAN THEY ALL YET NOT I BUT THE GRACE OF GOD WHICH WAS WITH ME **************************************************** 2 CORINTHIANS 6:14 BE YOU NOT UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS FOR WHAT FELLOWSHIP HATH RIGHTEOUSNESS WITH UNRIGHTEOUSNESS AND WHAT COMMUNION HATH LIGHT WITH DARKNESS **************************************************** ROMANS 14:1 HIM THAT IS WEAK IN THE FAITH RECEIVE YOU BUT ---NOT TO DOUBTFUL DISPUTATIONS--- **************************************************** MATTHEW 14:31 AND IMMEDIATELY JESUS STRETCHED FORTH HIS HAND AND CAUGHT HIM AND SAID UNTO HIM --- O THEE OF LITTLE FAITH WHEREFORE DIDST THOU DOUBT **************************************************** JOHN 8:45 AND BECAUSE --I-- TELL YOU THE TRUTH YOU BELIEVE ME NOT **************************************************** JOHN 8:47 HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GODS WORDS YOU THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT --- BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF GOD --- LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SisterWells Posted January 9, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 910 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 728 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/05/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, steve morrow said: UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS LUKE 1:3 IT SEEMED GOOD TO ME ALSO ---HAVING HAD PERFECT UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THINGS FROM THE VERY FIRST TO WRITE UNTO THEE IN ORDER MOST EXCELLENT THEOPHILUS ACTS 1:1 THE FORMER TREATISE HAVE I MADE O THEOPHILUS OF ALL THAT JESUS BEGAN BOTH TO DO AND TEACH ACTS 22:7 and I fell unto the ground and heard a voice saying unto me ---SAUL SAUL WHY PERSECUTEST THOU ME--- --22:8-- and I answered who art thou LORD and HE said unto me ---I AM JESUS OF NAZARETH WHOM THOU PERSECUTEST --22:9-- and they that were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid but they heard not the voice HIM that spake to me --22:10-- and I said what shall I do LORD and THE LORD said unto me --- ARISE AND GO INTO DAMASCUS AND THERE IT SHALL BE TOLD THEE OF --- ALL THINGS WHICH ARE APPOINTED FOR THEE TO DO ACTS 22:17 AND IT CAME TO PASS THAT WHEN I WAS COME AGAIN TO JERUSALEM EVEN WHILE I PRAYED IN THE TEMPLE I WAS IN A TRANCE --22:18-- AND SAW HIM SAYING UNTO ME --- MAKE HAST AND GET THEE QUICKLY OUT OF JERUSALEM FOR THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE THY TESTIMONY CONCERNING ME *******1 TIMOTHY 1:11 ACCORDING TO THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL OF THE BLESSED GOD WHICH WAS COMMITTED TO MY TRUST******* 1 CORINTHIANS 15:7 AFTER THAT HE WAS SEEN OF JAMES THEN OF ALL THE APOSTLES --15:8--AND LAST OF ALL HE WAS SEEN OF ME ALSO AS ONE BORN OUT OF DUE TIME --15:9-- FOR I AM THE LEAST OF THE APOSTLES THAT AM NOT MEET TO BE CALLED AN APOSTLE BECAUSE I PERSECUTED THE CHURCH OF GOD --15:10-- BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD I AM WHAT I AM AND HIS GRACE WHICH WAS BESTOWED UPON ME WAS NOT IN VAIN BUT I LABOURED MORE ABUNTANTLY THAN THEY ALL YET NOT I BUT THE GRACE OF GOD WHICH WAS WITH ME **************************************************** 2 CORINTHIANS 6:14 BE YOU NOT UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS FOR WHAT FELLOWSHIP HATH RIGHTEOUSNESS WITH UNRIGHTEOUSNESS AND WHAT COMMUNION HATH LIGHT WITH DARKNESS **************************************************** ROMANS 14:1 HIM THAT IS WEAK IN THE FAITH RECEIVE YOU BUT ---NOT TO DOUBTFUL DISPUTATIONS--- **************************************************** MATTHEW 14:31 AND IMMEDIATELY JESUS STRETCHED FORTH HIS HAND AND CAUGHT HIM AND SAID UNTO HIM --- O THEE OF LITTLE FAITH WHEREFORE DIDST THOU DOUBT **************************************************** JOHN 8:45 AND BECAUSE --I-- TELL YOU THE TRUTH YOU BELIEVE ME NOT **************************************************** JOHN 8:47 HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GODS WORDS YOU THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT --- BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF GOD --- LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Oh my, so loud. I've been banned from chat for a lesser crime than this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted January 9, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 406 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 241 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2021 19 hours ago, steve morrow said: 2 CORINTHIANS 6:14 BE YOU NOT UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS FOR WHAT FELLOWSHIP HATH RIGHTEOUSNESS WITH UNRIGHTEOUSNESS AND WHAT COMMUNION HATH LIGHT WITH DAR What if you’re married to one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic66 Posted January 9, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 649 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 200 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) On 12/29/2020 at 1:59 AM, Sower said: "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth" To be a lukewarm believer is to be as vomit. I view Paul as on fire, originally just on the wrong road. God knew a dedicated on fire soldier when He saw one, and set him on the right road. No one can say he was lukewarm. With all I/we need to learn to walk in Christ, I wonder the catalyst/origins to the doubts of Paul's credibility as an inspired writer of the word. Luke and Mark were not apostles, yet wrote the gospels. Amen Paul fought the good fight right up until his death, he resisted on to blood, he loved not his life onto the end and was a great example to the Church Edited January 29, 2021 by vic66 spelling mistake 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 406 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 241 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 hours ago, vic66 said: Amen Paul fought the good fight right up until his death, he resisted on to blood, he loved not his live onto the end and was a great example to the Church Just like Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,059 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 376 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted January 10, 2021 CAPS PSALM 132:9 LET THY PRIESTS BE CLOTHED WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS AND LET THY SAINTS SHOUT FOR JOY PSALM 32:11 be glad in THE LORD and rejoice you righteous ---AND SHOUT FOR JOY--- all you that are upright in heart PSALM 56:11 in GOD have I put my trust I will not be afraid of what man can do unto me *******JAMES 4:4 you adulterers and adulteresses know you not that the friendship of the world is enmity with GOD whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of GOD******* ACTS 28:27 FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE IS WAXED GROSS AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING AND THEIR EYES HAVE THEY CLOSED LEST THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED AND I SHOULD HEALL THEM LUKE 8:21 and HE answered and said unto them MY mother and MY brethren are these which hear the word of --GOD-- and do it LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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