popsthebuilder Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 299 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 87 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/13/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, JohnD said: Once again you attempt to hoodwink with this change of definiton. The Spirit is the Father... one minute... then the Spirit is a detachable thing the Father can send... Let me ask you this. Is the Spirit (according to what you believe) just a force, power, feeling? The Spirit is GOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,652 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,834 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, popsthebuilder said: The Spirit is GOD. In totality? Are you saying the Father and Jesus are only part of the Spirit? That they answer to the Spirit? They are accountable to the Spirit? Is that what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsthebuilder Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 299 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 87 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/13/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, JohnD said: In totality? Are you saying the Father and Jesus are only part of the Spirit? That they answer to the Spirit? They are accountable to the Spirit? Is that what you are saying? No sir. i am saying that GOD is Spirit. The Spirit that filled the Christ of GOD is the same Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,652 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,834 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2021 Proverbs 27:14 (NASB95) 14 He who blesses his friend with a loud voice early in the morning, It will be reckoned a curse to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,652 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,834 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, popsthebuilder said: No sir. i am saying that GOD is Spirit. The Spirit that filled the Christ of GOD is the same Spirit. Apparently we are not done. Fine. God is Spirit (John 4:24). This is referring to the nature of God. As is Colossians 1:15 stating that God is invisible. But this is not stating that Father or Son are mere manifestations of the Spirit. Remember, before Jesus became a man (John 1:14) he was God WITH God (John 1:1-2). Jesus is not merely a man filled by the Spirit of God, Jesus IS God the Word in flesh (incarnate). Jesus is the lone Creator of everything created in the beginning (Isaiah 44:24 / John 1:3 / Colossians 1:16 / Hebrews 1:2). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,652 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,834 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2021 Colossians 1:13–16 (NASB95) 13 For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. Isaiah 44:24 (NASB95) 24 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, “I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone, The Father didn't create by or through the Son. The Son (preincarnate) did it all by himself alone. The only thing recorded in scripture that the Father created was the human body Jesus (God the Word) would become: John 1:14 (NASB95) 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.' Hebrews 10:5 (NASB95) 5 Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, “Sacrifice and offering You have not desired, But a body You have prepared for Me; Hebrews 1:5 (NASB95) 5 For to which of the angels did He ever say, “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again, “I will be a Father to Him And He shall be a Son to Me”? The Spirit gave us the Word of God the Bible through the writing prophets: 2 Peter 1:20–21 (AV) 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. If you are going to remove the individuality of anyone of the three who are the one God, you may as well do it to all three as the Sabellianists do through modalism. Only problem is, it keeps running into scriptures hat proves it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,053 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 371 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted February 10, 2021 SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH 2 THESSALONIANS 2:8 and then shall that wicked be revealed whom THE LORD shall consume with the --SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH-- and shall destroy with the brightness of HIS coming REVELATION 2:8 and unto the angel of the church of smyrna write these things saith --THE FIRST AND THE LAST-- which was dead and is alive --2:11-- he that hath an ear let him hear what the spirit saith unto the churches he that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death REVELATION 1:8 I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING SAITH THE LORD -- WHICH IS AND WHICH WAS AND WHICH IS TO COME THE ALMIGHTY REVELATION 21:6 AND HE SAID UNTO ME IT IS DONE I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA THE BEGINNING AND THE END I WILL GIVE UNTO HIM THAT IS ATHIRST OF THE FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY ************************************************* JEREMIAH 2:13 for my people have committed two evils they have forsaken ME the fountain of living waters and hewed them out cisterns broken cisterns that can hold no water PSALM 36:9 for with thee is the fountain of life in thy light shall we see light PSALM 119:130 the entrance of thy words giveth light it giveth --UNDERSTANDING-- unto the simple ************************************************* REVELATION 22:13 I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA THE BEGINNING AND THE END THE FIRST AND THE LAST REVELATION 2:18 and unto the angel of the church in thyatira write ---THESE THINGS SAITH THE SON OF GOD--- who hath eyes like unto a flame of fire and HIS feet are like fine brass --2:26-- and he that overcometh ---AND KEEPETH MY WORKS UNTO THE END--- to him will I give power over the nations --2:29-- he that hath an ear let him hear what the spirit saith unto the churches REVELATION 3:14 and unto the angel of the church of laodiceans write these things saith the amen the faithful and true witness ---THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD--- ************************************************* COLOSSIANS 1:14 in whom we have redemption through HIS BLOOD even the forgiveness of sins ----- 1:15-- WHO IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD --- THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE --- ************************************************* REVELATION 3:22 HE THAT HATH AN EAR LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAITH UNTO THE CHURCHES LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 195 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.52 Reputation: 9,017 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 10, 2021 This has devolved to multiple members breaking the TOS and making personal attacks. Its locked until there is time to clean it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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