ENOCH2010 Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted February 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, missmuffet said: If you read the verse literally it is not adding or deleting from scripture. It simply means that God will take the true Christians out of this world before the 7 year tribulation. The verse in question says no such thing, that is only your hope to what says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said: The verse in question says no such thing, that is only your hope to what says. Suit yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.64 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, missmuffet said: If you read the verse literally it is not adding or deleting from scripture. It simply means that God will take the true Christians out of this world before the 7 year tribulation. You can keep saying it and saying it and yet it still is not WHAT IS WRITTEN BY GOD. How is it you CAN'T SEE THAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, DeighAnn said: You can keep saying it and saying it and yet it still is not WHAT IS WRITTEN BY GOD. How is it you CAN'T SEE THAT? Why can't you see the literal word of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.64 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Why can't you see the literal word of God? Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. you are correct. I LITERALLY DON'T SEE THE CHURCH GOING OFF TO HEAVEN FOR 7 YEARS HERE. WHICH WORD IS GIVING YOU ALL THAT. " HERE IS WHAT I SEE IT SAYING, AND 'ADDED EVENTS' ARE NOT PART OF IT. I SEE THE GOSPEL ARMOR KEEPING US SAFE AND GUARDING US THROUGH THE HOUR THAT IS COMING UPON THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH, AKA US. SILLY ME. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) Bottom line if you are alive and "left behind" or remain during the tribulation the only way you are going to get out of there Eternally Live is dead, martyred. There ain't no amount of armor to fix that. Revelation 6: 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. Edited February 2, 2021 by Riverwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, DeighAnn said: Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. you are correct. I LITERALLY DON'T SEE THE CHURCH GOING OFF TO HEAVEN FOR 7 YEARS HERE. WHICH WORD IS GIVING YOU ALL THAT. " HERE IS WHAT I SEE IT SAYING, AND 'ADDED EVENTS' ARE NOT PART OF IT. I SEE THE GOSPEL ARMOR KEEPING US SAFE AND GUARDING US THROUGH THE HOUR THAT IS COMING UPON THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH, AKA US. SILLY ME. No, God will not keep those people safe who go through the 7 year tribulation. People will come to Christ who go into the 7 year tribulation as unbelievers but most of them will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted February 2, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.64 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, missmuffet said: No, God will not keep those people safe who go through the 7 year tribulation. People will come to Christ who go into the 7 year tribulation as unbelievers but most of them will die. I WOULD rather take GODS WORD for it. Do you have God saying it? Or how did you come about this information. If it isn't written are you sure it is of GOD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 3, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, DeighAnn said: I WOULD rather take GODS WORD for it. Do you have God saying it? Or how did you come about this information. If it isn't written are you sure it is of GOD? I got it from the Bible. Is there a better source? Question: "What is the Tribulation? How do we know the Tribulation will last seven years?" Answer: The tribulation is a future seven-year period of time when God will finish His discipline of Israel and finalize His judgment of the unbelieving world. The church, made up of all who have trusted in the person and work of the Lord Jesus to save them from being punished for sin, will not be present during the tribulation. The church will be removed from the earth in an event known as the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-53). The church is saved from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 5:9). Throughout Scripture, the tribulation is referred to by other names such as the Day of the Lord (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6-9; Joel 1:15; 2:1-31; 3:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2); trouble or tribulation (Deuteronomy 4:30; Zephaniah 1:1); the great tribulation, which refers to the more intense second half of the seven-year period (Matthew 24:21); time or day of trouble (Daniel 12:1; Zephaniah 1:15); time of Jacob’s trouble (Jeremiah 30:7). An understanding of Daniel 9:24-27 is necessary in order to understand the purpose and time of the tribulation. This passage speaks of 70 weeks that have been declared against “your people.” Daniel’s people are the Jews, the nation of Israel, and Daniel 9:24 speaks of a period of time that God has given “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.” God declares that “seventy sevens” will fulfill all these things. This is 70 sevens of years, or 490 years. (Some translations refer to 70 weeks of years.) This is confirmed by another part of this passage in Daniel. In verses 25 and 26, Daniel is told that the Messiah will be cut off after “seven sevens and sixty-two sevens” (69 total), beginning with the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. In other words, 69 sevens of years (483 years) after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem, the Messiah will be cut off. Biblical historians confirm that 483 years passed from the time of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the time when Jesus was crucified. Most Christian scholars, regardless of their view of eschatology (future things/events), have the above understanding of Daniel’s 70 sevens. With 483 years having passed from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the cutting off of the Messiah, this leaves one seven-year period to be fulfilled in terms of Daniel 9:24: “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.” This final seven-year period is known as the tribulation period—it is a time when God finishes judging Israel for its sin. Daniel 9:27 gives a few highlights of the seven-year tribulation period: “He will confirm a covenant with many for one ’seven.' In the middle of the ’seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” The person of whom this verse speaks is the person Jesus calls the “abomination that causes desolation” (Matthew 24:15) and is called “the beast” in Revelation 13. Daniel 9:27 says that the beast will make a covenant for seven years, but in the middle of this week (3 1/2 years into the tribulation), he will break the covenant, putting a stop to sacrifice. Revelation 13 explains that the beast will place an image of himself in the temple and require the world to worship him. Revelation 13:5 says that this will go on for 42 months, which is 3 1/2 years. Since Daniel 9:27 says that this will happen in the middle of the week, and Revelation 13:5 says that the beast will do this for a period of 42 months, it is easy to see that the total length of time is 84 months or seven years. Also see Daniel 7:25, where the “time, times, and half a time” (time=1 year; times=2 years; half a time=1/2 year; total of 3 1/2 years) also refers to “great tribulation,” the last half of the seven-year tribulation period when the beast will be in power. For further references about the tribulation, see Revelation 11:2-3, which speaks of 1260 days and 42 months, and Daniel 12:11-12, which speaks of 1290 days and 1335 days. These days have a reference to the midpoint of the tribulation. The additional days in Daniel 12 may include the time at the end for the judgment of the nations (Matthew 25:31-46) and time for the setting up of Christ’s millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:4-6). In summary, the Tribulation is the 7-year time period in the end times in which humanity’s decadence and depravity will reach its fullness, with God judging accordingly. Edited February 3, 2021 by missmuffet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted February 3, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.64 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 14 hours ago, missmuffet said: I got it from the Bible. Is there a better source? No, there is no better source of God Truth than Gods Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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