Regenerated-Adult Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Regenerated-Adult said: I tried to read some of Heiser's books before but I didn't get very far to be honest. I don't think they read very smoothly and I don't have the patience. Plus I think some of his ideas are fringe. I might check out that book you mentioned and see. I think you may be referring to the Nephilim if I am not mistaken? Again, this topic seems a bit dubious to me as different people have different interpretation of those passages in the Bible that mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Regenerated-Adult said: I tried to read some of Heiser's books before but I didn't get very far to be honest. I don't think they read very smoothly and I don't have the patience. Plus I think some of his ideas are fringe. I might check out that book you mentioned and see. He is very easy to listen too. His scholarly works are difficult as he is a scholar. Try the videos. I think you will like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Regenerated-Adult said: I think you may be referring to the Nephilim if I am not mistaken? Again, this topic seems a bit dubious to me as different people have different interpretation of those passages in the Bible that mention it. Well, hundreds of years of disinformation is hard to overcome. Augustine, and therefore the seminaries, do not like 'sons of God' in Psalm 82. It is up to you to study and come to your own understanding. It is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, GandalfTheWise said: The core issue I see is whether our faith is in God Himself via relationship or in intellectual propositions we hold about God (including the Bible). If our faith (i.e. trust and confidence) is in God Himself and is based in how He has revealed Himself to us in our lives and made us new creations in Christ, it is a relational type of trust like we might have in loved ones. It will grow over time. Yes, yup, you bet and Amen. Accent on an actual and very real relationship--this is what God wants. No Father sets a child adrift and unconnected. It makes me profoundly sad when folks make the Bible their God. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenerated-Adult Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: Well, hundreds of years of disinformation is hard to overcome. Augustine, and therefore the seminaries, do not like 'sons of God' in Psalm 82. It is up to you to study and come to your own understanding. It is very important. For me, this gets dangerously close to the idea that humans can be just like Jesus Christ. Kind of Catholic, if you will. Kind of New Age. Not something I want to go near really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenerated-Adult Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alive said: Yes, yup, you bet and Amen. Accent on an actual and very real relationship--this is what God wants. No Father sets a child adrift and unconnected. It makes me profoundly sad when folks make the Bible their God. What do you mean? The Bible is the word of God isn't it? It's not just an ordinary book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Regenerated-Adult said: What do you mean? The Bible is the word of God isn't it? It's not just an ordinary book. Of course it is---please don't think that I have inferred anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenerated-Adult Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Alive said: Of course it is---please don't think that I have inferred anything else. I didn't think you inferred anything else. I am asking you what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Regenerated-Adult said: I didn't think you inferred anything else. I am asking you what you mean. I am talking about a 'relationship' with the God of the Bible beyond a simple intellectual understanding of that bible. I can study and fully grasp the manual for my refrigerator and never use the refrigerator. Our God doesn't just want us to know about Him. He wants us to know Him. To trust Him, to talk to Him and to hear Him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenerated-Adult Posted February 15, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Alive said: I am talking about a 'relationship' with the God of the Bible beyond a simple intellectual understanding of that bible. I can study and fully grasp the manual for my refrigerator and never use the refrigerator. Our God doesn't just want us to know about Him. He wants us to know Him. To trust Him, to talk to Him and to hear Him. Are you saying that this relationship with God occurs outside of the Bible in some way, and if so, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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