Markie51 Posted June 20, 2021 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 107 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 5/7/2021 at 5:23 PM, Whyme said: Jesus is the Word, correct? So this scripture is saying Jesus is God? I can see God becoming a man, i can see Him being a Spirit, but i cant understand how Jesus and the Father are both in heaven if they are the same person. Obviously Jesus is not God but God's son, right? Im a bit confused. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Consider reading and meditate only the listed scriptures in the book of Matthew carefully (definitely not inclusive). “This is my Son…”-3:17 “…son of God…“ (4:3); “…Jehovah’s mouth…” (4:4); “…son of God…” (4:6); “Jehovah your God…” (4:7); “…Jehovah your God you must worship…”-4:10 “…your Father who is in the heavens.“ (5:16, 45) “…heavenly Father…”-5:48 “…Father who is in the heavens” (6:1); “..pay to your father…” (6:6); “…God your father…” (6:8); “Our father in the heavens…” (6:9); “…heavenly Father…”-6:14, 26, 32 “…your Father who is in the heavens…“-7:11, 21 “…Son of God…“-8:29 “…my Father who is in the heavens…“ (10:32, 33); “…sent me forth.”-10:40 “…Father…“-11:25-27 “…my Father who is in the heaven…“-12:50 “You are really God’s son.“-14:33 “…my heavenly father…“-15:13 “…son of the living God…” (16:16); “…my Father who is in the heavens…“ (16:17); “…come in the glory of his Father…“-16:27 “This is my Son…“-17:5 “…my Father who is in the heaven…“ (18:10, 14); “…my Father in heaven…”(18:19); “…my heavenly Father…”-16:35 ‘…my Father…“-20:23 “…your Father, the heavenly one…“ (23:9); “…your Leader…” (23:10); “…he that comes in Jehovah’s name!”-23:39 “…neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”-24:36 “…blessed by my Father…“-25:34 “…in the kingdom of my Father.“ (26:29); “My Father…” (26:39, 42, 53); “By the living God…Christ the Son of God!” (26:63); “You yourself said it…”-26:64 “Certainly this was God’s Son.“-27:54 “All authority has been given me…“-28:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 20, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 909 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,662 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,839 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) On 5/7/2021 at 4:23 PM, Whyme said: Jesus is the Word, correct? So this scripture is saying Jesus is God? I can see God becoming a man, i can see Him being a Spirit, but i cant understand how Jesus and the Father are both in heaven if they are the same person. Obviously Jesus is not God but God's son, right? Im a bit confused. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word created all things created (John 1:3). He created all things alone / by himself (Isaiah 44:24) GOD created... (Genesis 1:1) The Word became flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14) Therefore Jesus is God the Word incarnate. Edited June 20, 2021 by JohnD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 20, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 909 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,662 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,839 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2021 Whyme said: but i cant understand how Jesus and the Father are both in heaven if they are the same person They aren't the same person. Allow me to rephrase your point in a way that might help you understand... 'I can't understand how the spatial dimensions of length, height, and depth can coexist in the universe at the same time...' All three are needed for the one universe to even exist. The same is true about the Deity. One of the three (the creator) took upon himself the additional nature of humanity (Jesus, of course). And he sacrificed that nature to save you and me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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