Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

[Psalms37:4]

On 8/22/2017 at 11:57 AM, inchrist said:

Im going to begin with the phrase "The day no man knows" , in hebrew it is called Yom Teruw’ah the feast of trumpets,  it is one of the 7 ordained biblical feasts of God. That occurs in the 7th month on its first day.

God's ordained feasts

1. Passover Lev 23.5
2. Unleavend Bread Lev 23:6
3. First fruits lev 23:11
4. Shavuot - known as Pentecost  lev 23:16
5. Yom Teruw’ah Lev 23:24
6.  Yom Kippur Lev 23:27
7.  Tabernacles Lev 23:34

All of these feasts is God's perfect plan of revealing Christ and his redemption.

 

With that little background, we can start diving a little deeper into the cultural background of Yom Teruw’ah . The feasts of Trumpets is also known to the jews as the day no one knows   because it is the only feast that is determined by the sighting of the new moon, therefore,  no man can calculate the exact day or hour of when this feast day will begin.

The Jewish Encyclopedia:

Originally, the New Moon was not fixed by astronomical calculations, but was solemnly proclaimed after witnesses had testified to the reappearance of the crescent of the moon. On the 30th of each month, the members of the High Court[6] assembled in a courtyard in Jerusalem, named Beit Ya'azek, where they waited to receive the testimony of two reliable witnesses; they then sanctified the New Moon. If the moon's crescent was not seen on the 30th day, the New Moon was automatically celebrated on the next day

This practice of having two reliable witnesses sighting of the crescent moon to be called up to the high court in Jerusalem was in practice well before Christ first appearance .

From the talmud

Rosh Hashanah 23b

Mishnah. How do they test the witnesses? The pair who arrive first are tested first. The senior of them is brought in and they say to him, tell us how you saw the moon — in front of the sun or behind the sun? to the north of it or the south? How big was it, and in which direction was it inclined? and how broad was it? If he says [he saw it] in front of the sun, his evidence is rejected. after that they would bring in the second and test him. If their accounts tallied, their evidence was accepted, and the other pairs were only questioned briefly, not because they were required at all, but so that they should not be disappointed, [and] so that they should not be dissuaded from coming.

This is a foolish idiom of pure speculation, having no support and can be refuted by the bible. The trumpet that accommodate the rapture is The Trump of God: 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17. Good luck trying to convince anyone The Trump of God is the same as the feast of trumpets. Psst, the feast of trumpet sounds annually, the Trump of God is not a yearly event.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁶ For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kipper generally falls on the last week of September to early October at the beginning of Autumn. The bible refutes this as it reveals the seasons of the rapture and the second coming. None of which falls in Autumn. Paul tells us we'll perfectly know the times and seasons because it's already given in the bible: 1st Thessalonians 5:1. Especially when we see that Day coming: Hebrews 10:25. 

1 Thessalonians 5:1 New King James Version (NKJV)

But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you.

Hebrews 10:25 New King James Version (NKJV)

²⁵ not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

 

The prophet Hosea told us the Lord will return in two stages, once during the former season (the Winter) and again during the latter season (the Spring). The rapture and the second coming are clearly distinct occurring at different seasons. More evidence supporting a Pre-Trib rapture. More evidence refuting a 7th trumpet rapture / second coming.

 

Hosea 6:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)

6 Come, and let us return to the Lord;
For He has torn, but He will heal us;
He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
² After two days He will revive us;
On the third day He will raise us up,
That we may live in His sight.
³ Let us know,
Let us pursue the knowledge of the Lord.
His going forth is established as the morning;
He will come to us like the rain,
Like the latter and former rain to the earth.

Hosea 6:3 (KJV) Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Hosea 6:3 (NIV) Let us acknowledge the LORD; let us press on to acknowledge him. As surely as the sun rises, he will appear; he will come to us like the winter rains, like the spring rains that water the earth.”

Hoshea 6:3 (OJB) Then shall we know, if we follow on to know Hashem; His going forth is prepared as the shachar (dawn); and He shall come unto us as the geshem (winter rain), as the malkosh (spring rain, i.e., as the latter and former rain, which is the winter and spring rain) unto ha’aretz.

Hosea 6:3 (RHE) He will revive us after two days: on the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. We shall know, and we shall follow on, that we may know the Lord. His going forth is prepared as the morning light, and he will come to us as the early and the latter rain to the earth.

Hosea 6:3 (TMB) Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD; His going forth is prepared as the morning; and He shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Hosea 6:3 (WBT) Then shall we know, [if] we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he will come to us as the rain, as the latter [and] former rain to the earth.

Why did the prophet Hosea compared the Lord's return as the rain? Because it's literal. What do you think the 7th bowl of wrath consist of? It's a giant tempest that can produce 100 pound hails. Jesus will literally be coming with thunderstorm at His return. First at Armageddon, He'll destroy the a/c and all His enemies by fire. Then He'll destroy all His remaining enemies outside Armageddon by water, and at the same time extinguish all the firestorms from the nuclear war at the 7th Vial.

Matthew 24:27 New King James Version (NKJV)

²⁷ For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Psalm 83:14-17 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁴ As the fire burns the woods,
And as the flame sets the mountains on fire,
¹⁵ So pursue them with Your tempest,
And frighten them with Your storm.
¹⁶ Fill their faces with shame,
That they may seek Your name, O Lord.
¹⁷ Let them be confounded and dismayed forever;
Yes, let them be put to shame and perish,

Isaiah 30:30-31 New King James Version (NKJV)

³⁰ The Lord will cause His glorious voice to be heard,
And show the descent of His arm,
With the indignation of His anger
And the flame of a devouring fire,
With scattering, tempest, and hailstones.
³¹ For through the voice of the Lord
Assyria will be beaten down,
As He strikes with the rod.

Why else do you think the prophet Daniel predicted Daniel's 70th week will end in a flood?

Daniel 9:26 New King James Version (NKJV)

²⁶ “And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

The rapture of the church happens during the Winter season. The first part of the 6th seal is the rapture of the church (Rev 6:12-14). Later at the 6th seal, we see the church in heaven standing before the throne room of God (Rev 6:9-17).

A timely fig falls during Spring, an unripe fig falls during Winter. There are no figs in Autumn, it's just a fig bud.

Revelation 6:13 (ASV) and the stars of the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs when she is shaken of a great wind.

Revelation 6:13 (CSB) the stars of heaven fell to the earth as a fig tree drops its unripe figs when shaken by a high wind;

Revelation 6:13 (DBY) and the stars of heaven fell upon the earth, as a fig tree, shaken by a great wind, casts its unseasonable figs.

Revelation 6:13 (ESV) and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.

Revelation 6:13 (GNT) The stars fell down to the earth, like unripe figs falling from the tree when a strong wind shakes it.

Revelation 6:13 (HNV) The stars of the sky fell to the eretz, as a fig tree drops its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Revelation 6:13 (KJV) And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

And this is also confirmed in the book of Haggai as God told the prophet Haggai, He will bring about the tribulation (Haggai 2:21-22) sometime after the 24th day of the 9th month which in the Hebrew calendar is the 24th of Kislev, the final week of Autumn. 

Haggai 2:18-22 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁸ ‘Consider now from this day forward, from the twenty-fourth day of the ninth month, from the day that the foundation of the Lord’s temple was laid—consider it: ¹⁹ Is the seed still in the barn? As yet the vine, the fig tree, the pomegranate, and the olive tree have not yielded fruit. But from this day I will bless you.’”

²⁰ And again the word of the Lord came to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, ²¹ “Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying:

‘I will shake heaven and earth.
²² I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms;
I will destroy the strength of the Gentile kingdoms.
I will overthrow the chariots
And those who ride in them;
The horses and their riders shall come down,
Every one by the sword of his brother.

This is posted solely for other people's benefit to learn something they might not have known. This is not written for you as there's nothing in the bible you're willing to accept unless it can be used to promote your own theology. Paul told us we'll know the times and seasons, not the day or the hour.

Jesus said no man knows the day or the hour, not the angels in heaven nor the Son. I'm pretty sure Jesus knows the feast days better than anyone that's ever lived. If He knows the feast days and not know the day or hour, I'm pretty sure He literally meant what He said in Mark 13:32. 

Mark 13:32 New King James Version (NKJV)

³² “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2017 by Psalms37:4

[n2thelight]

Revelation 20:12"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

Notice there are two sets of books here. The first called "The Books" is to judge the unsaved. The second is the "Book of Life" where only the names of the saved are recorded. The saved have had their sins removed from God's judgment and booted out. Though they were committed, the blood of Christ has covered them from being used against us.

Notice how all souls are judged "according to their works". Does it talk about faith here after the Millennium? No. The "great white throne judgment" will not take faith into consideration. The first resurrection takes faith into consideration. That was back on "the Lord's day". That was Jesus Christ's "great day". On the last day of the Millennium age, souls are judged by works only.

Why are you judged for works only? Faith is something hoped for but unseen. You don't see Jesus Christ on earth today, you will see his wonderful works, and be led by Him and His Spirit in the Millennium age. Today He is in heaven and not walking on this earth. However, in the millennium, He will be on earth, and all will have full intelligence, with full recall and will be taught. The Heavenly Father honors all those with grace, that have accepted His Son by faith through repentance without Christ's physical presence here on earth, if you believed in His Word.

To those who are not under grace in the Millennium, their salvation will be only through and by their works. For faith doesn't exist to them. There will be no ignorance, physical handicap, for you will see, know, and experience Our Lord first hand.

If you follow the Antichrist, the first Christ to appear, you will have forfeited your salvation in this earth age. You will not be under the grace of God, and your works will be the only thing that matters on the last day of the Millennium, the day of judgment. They will be judged by works alone, for they have seen Jesus Christ, and are without excuse. The "rapture theory" leaves believers defenseless against Satan, for they will be taken in by Satan's deceptions.

[n2thelight]

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not have her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

What part of AFTER, don't you all(rapturist)get.

To get around this,you all come up with this foolish notion that Matt 24 wasn't written to the Church,please!!!!!!!

[n2thelight]

26 minutes ago, Psalms37:4 said:

esus said no man knows the day or the hour, not the angels in heaven nor the Son. I'm pretty sure Jesus knows the feast days better than anyone that's ever lived. If He knows the feast days and not know the day or hour, I'm pretty sure He literally meant what He said in Mark 13:32. 

Mark 13:32 New King James Version (NKJV)

³² “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Where in Mark 13 is the rapture?This chapter gives us all 7 seals of Rev.

[Psalms37:4]

11 hours ago, inchrist said:

Again what is with your continious assumptions?

All you're showing is how bad your at aligning the jewish feasts with Christ eschatology.

Is Rosh Hashanah and Yom kippur simultaneous? Do you even have a clue of what I talking about here?

Yeah I know what you're talking about. It's called gobbledygook. The real question is, "do you know what Jesus was talking about?"

He said the day when He comes for the church will be a normal day just like all other days when people will be doing normal daily routines: business as usual activities. This is clearly pre-trib. 

Matthew 24:37-39 New King James Version (NKJV)

³⁷ But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. ³⁸ For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, ³⁹ and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Matthew 24:37-39 New Living Translation (NLT)

³⁷ “When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. ³⁸ In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.³⁹ People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes.

Who's gonna be throwing parties when their heads are about to be cut off during the 7th trumpet? What Jesus said clearly debunks a 7th trumpet rapture/second coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[n2thelight]

14 minutes ago, Psalms37:4 said:

Who's gonna be throwing parties when their heads are about to be cut off during the 7th trumpet? What Jesus said clearly debunks a 7th trumpet rapture/second coming.

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

 

[Psalms37:4]

23 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not have her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

What part of AFTER, don't you all(rapturist)get.

To get around this,you all come up with this foolish notion that Matt 24 wasn't written to the Church,please!!!!!!!

n2, 

Matthew 24 is written to both the church and Israel. The first parable is for Israel, the second parable is for the church.

 

Matthew 24:29-31 New King James Version (NKJV)

²⁹ “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. ³⁰ Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. ³¹ And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:29-31 is NOT the rapture. The elects are already in heaven. You can't rapture anyone already in heaven. In a rapture, people go up, they don't come down.

Ask yourself, how did the elects already get to heaven before the end of the tribulation? Can it happen in a Pre-trib rapture? Can it happen in a post-trib rapture?

If the elects are already in heaven, why do you need a post-trib rapture? Matthew 24:29-31 pretty much refutes any possibility of a post-trib rapture.

 

 

[n2thelight]

Matthew 24:37 "But as the days of Noe were so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

This "Noe", is the Greek form of the Hebrew word, "Noah". These final days of this earth will be exactly as it was in the days that Noah was on the earth, just prior to his entering into the ark. To find out what happened in that day, we must go to Genesis 6. What was it like in those days?

Genesis 6:1, 2; "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them," [1] "That the sons of God [the fallen angels] saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." [2]

These angels left their first estate, as Jude writes in Jude 4, and married flesh women of flesh man. From this marriage came the offspring of this evil relationship. These offspring were called; in Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 5303, and 5307, "Nephilim, or the Giants. These angels are created beings, and thus are called the "sons of God".

Genesis 6:4-5; "There were giants [Nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also f=after that, when the sons of God [fallen angels] came in unto the daughters of men, they bare [children, is added by the translators] to them, the same became might men which were of old, men of renoun."

So we see that the fallen angels left their habitation of the heavenlies, and came to earth and mated with women and a new for of life was formed, and evil form defiant against God. Man and angels are very similar, for the Israelites were sustained on angels food in the wilderness, and angels ate of mans food, as we saw when they sat with both Abraham, and Lot, and ate.

The whole reason for the flood of Noah's time was to destroy the misfits that had invaded the earth, and inbred with women. The reason for God saving Noah is recorded in Genesis 6:8, 9;"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." [8] "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." [9]

In the Hebrew manuscripts, "perfect" is the word "tamin", or without blemish, with respect to pedigree. What this is telling us is that all of flesh corrupted except for Noah's family. The word in the Hebrew for "walked", means Noah walked habitually [continually] with God.

Are you starting to get the picture, these angels are going to return to earth in the last days, and do the same as they did in Noah's day. Strange events are starting to come to light, and the governments around the world are allowing sightings and events to go out to the public, where before they would kill and discredit those who saw the events. We are very close to the time when they will become as common as man, and be accepted, and this can happen because the Kenites now control the one world system.

Jesus is telling them that it is not going to be any difference now, as it was in Noah's day, for you are going to have the fallen angels down their with you then. When Satan is caste to the earth, all of Satan's many fallen angels will be caste out with him. This is recorded in Revelation 12:7-9; "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [7] "And prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven." [8] "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." [9]

What will the people of the earth be doing at this time?

Matthew 24:38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,"

They were eating and drinking, and marrying, and giving in marriage to the fallen angels. If you think that is not possible, that is exactly as it was in Noah's day as he entered into the ark. Friend that is what is starting to happen, where even churches are catering to Sodomy, and all forms of ancient Baalism, and they think it is of God, they are accepting it, because they are ignorant of God's holy word. Pray to God that you are not of that mind set, for it is part of the mark of the beast. No the mark of the beast is not any form of electronic devise, but a mind set that conforms to the doctrines of devils.

Before Christ returns the entire world will accept the doctrines of this locust army of fallen angels, because they will be taught in their church houses to do so. If you are not one of the elect, you will accept these angels as being from God, and you will agree with everything that they say, for if you do not have the seal of God in your forehead, you mind, God will allow the delusion to come over your mind. It is not to late to know the truth now, but that time is getting near when it will not be your choice.

Just before Jesus Christ return to earth these angels will be working miracles, with their leader, Satan, and this is possible because they are supernatural, just like Satan is. They are not of flesh our human substance. What happened in Genesis 6 is going to happen again, so make a point of getting to know the chapter.

Matthew 24:39 "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the son of man be."

It is going to be exactly as it was then. The people of the earth thought the merry times and times of peace and prosperity could never end. As Noah preached, and told them of the coming flood, they laughed and made fun of him. During the reign of the Antichrist on earth, you family and friends, will think of you as some sort of nut that has lost mind. They will be so convinced that Satan is the true Christ, if it were possible they would kill you for him, but it will not be possible. Then the seventh trumpet shall sound, and the entire earth will see Christ coming in all His glory, with all the saints, and terror will streak through their minds, for they will see and know how they have been deceived.

If you do know the true word of God, then praise God, and stand tall, and rejoice in the Lord. This is the time of victory. Paul talks of this day in I Corinthians 15:54-57; "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory." [54] "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" [55] "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law." [56] "But thanks be to God, Which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." [57]

Those that have the gospel armor of God on, will be the ones to have this victory in Christ. You start to put it on when you repent to God, in Jesus name, and believe in His word. You read it and study it, and He will lead you through those deceitful times. God is our strength, and we get our strength for His word.

[Psalms37:4]

 

32 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Where in Mark 13 is the rapture?This chapter gives us all 7 seals of Rev.

Really? That would be new news to me. Where are the 7 seals of Rev mentioned in Mark 13?

[Psalms37:4]

4 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Matthew 24:37 "But as the days of Noe were so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

This "Noe", is the Greek form of the Hebrew word, "Noah". These final days of this earth will be exactly as it was in the days that Noah was on the earth, just prior to his entering into the ark. To find out what happened in that day, we must go to Genesis 6. What was it like in those days?

Genesis 6:1, 2; "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them," [1] "That the sons of God [the fallen angels] saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." [2]

These angels left their first estate, as Jude writes in Jude 4, and married flesh women of flesh man. From this marriage came the offspring of this evil relationship. These offspring were called; in Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 5303, and 5307, "Nephilim, or the Giants. These angels are created beings, and thus are called the "sons of God".

Genesis 6:4-5; "There were giants [Nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also f=after that, when the sons of God [fallen angels] came in unto the daughters of men, they bare [children, is added by the translators] to them, the same became might men which were of old, men of renoun."

So we see that the fallen angels left their habitation of the heavenlies, and came to earth and mated with women and a new for of life was formed, and evil form defiant against God. Man and angels are very similar, for the Israelites were sustained on angels food in the wilderness, and angels ate of mans food, as we saw when they sat with both Abraham, and Lot, and ate.

The whole reason for the flood of Noah's time was to destroy the misfits that had invaded the earth, and inbred with women. The reason for God saving Noah is recorded in Genesis 6:8, 9;"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." [8] "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." [9]

In the Hebrew manuscripts, "perfect" is the word "tamin", or without blemish, with respect to pedigree. What this is telling us is that all of flesh corrupted except for Noah's family. The word in the Hebrew for "walked", means Noah walked habitually [continually] with God.

Are you starting to get the picture, these angels are going to return to earth in the last days, and do the same as they did in Noah's day. Strange events are starting to come to light, and the governments around the world are allowing sightings and events to go out to the public, where before they would kill and discredit those who saw the events. We are very close to the time when they will become as common as man, and be accepted, and this can happen because the Kenites now control the one world system.

Jesus is telling them that it is not going to be any difference now, as it was in Noah's day, for you are going to have the fallen angels down their with you then. When Satan is caste to the earth, all of Satan's many fallen angels will be caste out with him. This is recorded in Revelation 12:7-9; "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [7] "And prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven." [8] "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." [9]

What will the people of the earth be doing at this time?

Matthew 24:38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,"

They were eating and drinking, and marrying, and giving in marriage to the fallen angels. If you think that is not possible, that is exactly as it was in Noah's day as he entered into the ark. Friend that is what is starting to happen, where even churches are catering to Sodomy, and all forms of ancient Baalism, and they think it is of God, they are accepting it, because they are ignorant of God's holy word. Pray to God that you are not of that mind set, for it is part of the mark of the beast. No the mark of the beast is not any form of electronic devise, but a mind set that conforms to the doctrines of devils.

Before Christ returns the entire world will accept the doctrines of this locust army of fallen angels, because they will be taught in their church houses to do so. If you are not one of the elect, you will accept these angels as being from God, and you will agree with everything that they say, for if you do not have the seal of God in your forehead, you mind, God will allow the delusion to come over your mind. It is not to late to know the truth now, but that time is getting near when it will not be your choice.

Just before Jesus Christ return to earth these angels will be working miracles, with their leader, Satan, and this is possible because they are supernatural, just like Satan is. They are not of flesh our human substance. What happened in Genesis 6 is going to happen again, so make a point of getting to know the chapter.

Matthew 24:39 "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the son of man be."

It is going to be exactly as it was then. The people of the earth thought the merry times and times of peace and prosperity could never end. As Noah preached, and told them of the coming flood, they laughed and made fun of him. During the reign of the Antichrist on earth, you family and friends, will think of you as some sort of nut that has lost mind. They will be so convinced that Satan is the true Christ, if it were possible they would kill you for him, but it will not be possible. Then the seventh trumpet shall sound, and the entire earth will see Christ coming in all His glory, with all the saints, and terror will streak through their minds, for they will see and know how they have been deceived.

If you do know the true word of God, then praise God, and stand tall, and rejoice in the Lord. This is the time of victory. Paul talks of this day in I Corinthians 15:54-57; "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory." [54] "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" [55] "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law." [56] "But thanks be to God, Which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." [57]

Those that have the gospel armor of God on, will be the ones to have this victory in Christ. You start to put it on when you repent to God, in Jesus name, and believe in His word. You read it and study it, and He will lead you through those deceitful times. God is our strength, and we get our strength for His word.

Elaborate on this. How does all this disprove the Pre-Trib rapture?