The Creator repents or not?

[Selah7]

On 6/28/2021 at 12:55 PM, Leonardo Von said:

At first, the Holy Scripture says:

 

• "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" (Num 23:19)

 

Nevertheless, the Holy Scripture also says:

• "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." (Gen 6:6).
• "Thou hast forsaken me, saith the LORD, thou art gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against thee, and destroy thee; I am weary with repenting." (Jer 15:6).
• "And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not." (Jon 3:10).
• "If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them." (Jer 18:10).

 

How to sort out this quandary?

I think our God feels overwhelming sorrow when He sees His kids being disobedient to His ways.  More than anything, God wants our love.  Yes, I believe He repents… Our Father in heaven has emotions.  We can see this throughout the Bible.  Oh, but His mercy endures forever and He longs to be gracious to us.

[David1701]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

 

 

The word ‘Sheol’ is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament. If you search for it in the KJV, you won’t find it at all. The actual word sheol is translated incorrectly to ‘hell’ 54 times.

And the remaining 11 times as either grave or pit. The actual word in the original each time is ‘sheol’.

 

vְאוֹל (šᵉʾôl), Sheol, netherworld (H8619).

 

ANE Sum./Akk. attest šuʾāru or a proposed šuʾālû (cf. AHw, 1255b), but most scholars reject any connection between them and Heb. שְׁאוֹל (Heidel, The Gilgamesh Epic, 173). Inasmuch as the lexeme occurs nowhere else in ancient Sem. texts, it seems clear so far that the term is a Heb. isogloss.

 

OT This term for the abode of the dead occurs 65x in the Heb. OT, 61x rendered ᾅδης (G87) in LXX and 61x infernum or inferi in Vg. All attempts to recover its etymology have failed (cf. HALAT 1274). Its collocation with ‏אֲבַדֹּה‎ / ‏עֲבַדּוֹן‎ (Prov 27:20; 15:11) and parallelism with ‏בּוֹר‎ (Isa 14:15) and ‏מָוֶת‎ (Ps 89:48 [49]; Prov 5:5; 7:27; Song of Songs 8:6) make it clear that ‏שְׁאוֹל‎ designates both the grave and the netherworld, particularly the latter. It is a favorite term in poetry and Wisdom literature (35x) and occurs several times in both Isaiah (9x) and Ezekiel (5x) as well.

 

1. Fundamentally, ‏שְׁאוֹל‎ is a place, one beneath the earth’s surface to which people descend at death (Gen 37:35; Job 7:9; Ezek 31:15, 17; 32:27) or even while still alive (Num 16:33; Ps 55:15 [16]). The common use of ‏יָרַד‎ with the hi. suggests that people go to ‏שְׁאוֹל‎ also against their will; they are brought down to that place (Gen 42:38; 44:29, 31; 1 Sam 2:6; 1 Kgs 2:6, 9; Ezek 31:16). Ultimately it is Yahweh who causes them to go down, but he also has it in his power to bring them forth again (1 Sam 2:6; cf. Isa 26:19). Whether the grave or the netherworld is in view, ‏שְׁאוֹל‎ speaks of the deepest depths, the antithesis of the highest heavens (Job 11:8; cf. Prov 9:18). Like ‏מָוֶת‎ it is a dwelling place, one approached through gates and covered everywhere with dust (Job 17:16; Isa 38:10).

 

2. As a personification, ‏שְׁאוֹל‎ is a fearsome enemy. With ropes (2 Sam 22:6 = Ps 18:4 [5]) it drags its victims down (Job 24:19) into its very mouth (Ps 141:7). It is a cruel despot (Song of Songs 8:6), capable of carrying out its evil designs because of its irresistible power (Ps 89:48 [49]). Jonah, though in the belly of the fish, metaphorically saw himself also to be in the belly of Sheol (Jonah 2:2 [3]).

 

3. God cannot be frustrated by ‏שְׁאוֹל‎, however, but is able to direct the wise away from it (Prov 15:24) and to deliver his saints from its maraudings (Ps 86:13). It  [Vol. 4, p. 7]  may take discipline to steer the recalcitrant child from heading to ‏שְׁאוֹל‎ (Prov 23:14), but even those who end up there have the hope of being redeemed (‏פָּדָה‎ H7009) from its grasp and brought back to life (Ps 49:15 [16]).

 

4. The most elaborate OT descriptions of the netherworld appear in Isaiah and Ezekiel. Isaiah, speaking of the king of Babylon in the guise of Helel ben Shacher, prophesies his fall from the heights to the depths, to Sheol (Isa 14:15 || ‏בּוֹר‎). There the occupants will marvel at his radical reversal of fortune (vv. 16–18). Ezekiel condemns Pharaoh in a similar manner, consigning him to Sheol, the place of the pit (‏בּוֹר‎) and the lowest parts of earth (‏אֶרֶץ תַּחְתִּית‎, Ezek 31:16). It is the realm of the uncircumcised (v. 18), a way of describing Gentile sinners especially (cf. 32:21). The dead there have an existence of some kind, though their description as “shades” (‏רְפָאִים) (Isa 14:9) makes it clear that theirs is a weak and unrewarding style of life (14:10). There is no hope of deliverance from Sheol or the grave unless God himself should graciously intervene, a possibility hinted at here and there in the OT record (Ps 16:10; 49:15 [16]; 56:13 [14]; 86:13). Full assurance of victory over Sheol must await the revelation of the NT witness (1 Cor 15:50–58).

 

 

Gen. 37:35 Then all his sons and all his daughters arose to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. And he said, “Surely I will ^ago down to Sheol in mourning for my son.” So his father wept for him.

 

Gen. 42:38 But ¹Jacob said, “My son shall not go down with you; for his ^abrother is dead, and he alone is left. ^bIf harm should befall him on the journey ²you are taking, then you will ^cbring my gray hair down to Sheol in sorrow.”

 

Gen. 44:29 ‘If you take this one also from ¹me, and harm befalls him, you will ^abring my gray hair down to Sheol in ²sorrow.’

 

Gen. 44:31 when he sees that the lad is not with us, he will die. Thus your servants will ^abring the gray hair of your servant our father down to Sheol in sorrow.

 

Num. 16:30 “But ^aif the LORD ¹brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they ^bdescend alive into ²Sheol, then you will understand that these men have spurned the LORD.”

 

Num. 16:33 So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to ¹Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly.

 

Deut. 32:22  ^aFor a fire is kindled in My anger,

And burns to the lowest part of ¹Sheol,

^bAnd consumes the earth with its yield,

And sets on fire the foundations of the mountains.

 

1Sam. 2:6  “^aThe LORD kills and makes alive;

^bHe brings down to ¹Sheol and raises up.

 

2Sam. 22:6  ^aThe cords of ¹Sheol surrounded me;

The snares of death confronted me.

 

1Kings 2:6 “^aSo act according to your wisdom, and do not let his gray hair go down to ¹Sheol in peace.

 

1Kings 2:9 “Now therefore, do not let him go unpunished, ^afor you are a wise man; and you will know what you ought to do to him, and you will bring his gray hair down to ¹Sheol with blood.”

 

Job 7:9  “When a ^acloud vanishes, it is gone,

So ^bhe who goes down to ^cSheol does not come up.

 

Job 11:8  “They are ^ahigh as ¹the heavens, what can you do?

Deeper than ^2bSheol, what can you know?

 

Job 14:13    “Oh that You would hide me in ¹Sheol,

That You would conceal me ^auntil Your wrath returns to You,

That You would set a limit for me and remember me!

 

Job 17:13  “If I look for ^aSheol as my home,

I ¹make my bed in the darkness;

 

Job 17:16  “¹Will it go down with me to Sheol?

Shall we together ^ago down into the dust?”

 

Job 21:13  “They ^aspend their days in prosperity,

And ¹suddenly they go down to ²Sheol.

 

Job 24:19  “Drought and heat ^1aconsume the snow waters,

So does ^2bSheol those who have sinned.

 

Job 26:6  “Naked is ^1aSheol before Him,

And ^2bAbaddon has no covering.

 

Job 33:18  He ^akeeps back his soul from the pit,

And his life from ¹passing over ^binto Sheol.

 

Psa. 6:5  For ^athere is no ¹mention of You in death;

In ²Sheol who will give You thanks?

 

Psa. 9:17    The wicked will ^1areturn to ²Sheol,

Even all the nations who ^bforget God.

 

Psa. 16:10  For You ^awill not abandon my soul to ¹Sheol;

Nor will You ^2ballow Your ³Holy One to ⁴undergo decay.

 

Psa. 18:5  The ^acords of ¹Sheol surrounded me;

The snares of death confronted me.

 

Psa. 30:3  O LORD, You have ^abrought up my soul from ¹Sheol;

You have kept me alive, ²that I would not ^bgo down to the pit.

 

Psa. 31:17  Let me not be ^aput to shame, O LORD, for I call upon You;

Let the ^bwicked be put to shame, let them ^cbe silent in ¹Sheol.

 

Psa. 49:14  As sheep they are appointed ^afor ¹Sheol;

Death shall be their shepherd;

And the ^bupright shall rule over them in the morning,

And their form shall be for ¹Sheol ^cto consume

²So that they have no habitation.

¹⁵  But God will ^aredeem my soul from the ¹power of ²Sheol,

For ^bHe will receive me.  Selah.

 

Psa. 55:15  Let ¹death come ^adeceitfully upon them;

Let them ^bgo down alive to ²Sheol,

For evil is in their dwelling, in their midst.

 

Psa. 86:13  For Your lovingkindness toward me is great,

And You have ^adelivered my soul from the ¹depths of ²Sheol.

 

Psa. 88:3  For my ^asoul has ¹had enough troubles,

And ^bmy life has drawn near to ²Sheol.

 

Psa. 89:48  What man can live and not ^asee death?

Can he ^bdeliver his soul from the ¹power of ²Sheol?  Selah.

 

Psa. 116:3  The ^acords of death encompassed me

And the ¹terrors of ²Sheol ³came upon me;

I found distress and sorrow.

 

Psa. 139:8  ^aIf I ascend to heaven, You are there;

If I make my bed in ¹Sheol, behold, ^bYou are there.

 

Psa. 141:7  As when one ^aplows and breaks open the earth,

Our ^bbones have been scattered at the ^cmouth of ¹Sheol.

 

Prov. 1:12  Let us ^aswallow them alive like Sheol,

Even whole, as those who ^bgo down to the pit;

 

Prov. 5:5  Her feet ^ago down to death,

Her steps take hold of Sheol.

 

Prov. 7:27  Her ^ahouse is the way to Sheol,

Descending to the chambers of death.

 

Prov. 9:18  But he does not know that the ¹dead are there,

That her guests are in the ^adepths of Sheol.

 

Prov. 15:11  ^1aSheol and ²Abaddon lie open before the LORD,

How much more the ^bhearts of ³men!

 

Prov. 15:24  The ^apath of life leads upward for the wise

That he may keep away from ¹Sheol below.

 

Prov. 23:14  You shall ¹strike him with the rod

And ^arescue his soul from Sheol.

 

Prov. 27:20  ^1aSheol and ²Abaddon are ^bnever satisfied,

Nor are the ^ceyes of man ever satisfied.

 

Prov. 30:16  ^1aSheol, and the ^bbarren womb,

Earth that is never satisfied with water,

And fire that never says, “Enough.”

 

Eccl. 9:10   Whatever your hand finds to do, ^ado it with all your might; for there is no ^bactivity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in ^cSheol where you are going.

 

Song 8:6  “Put me like a ¹seal over your heart,

Like a ^aseal on your arm.

For love is as strong as death,

^2bJealousy is as severe as Sheol;

Its flashes are flashes of fire,

³The very flame of the LORD.

 

Is. 5:14  Therefore ^aSheol has enlarged its ¹throat and opened its mouth without measure;

And ²Jerusalem’s splendor, her multitude, her din of revelry and the jubilant within her, descend into it.

 

Is. 7:11 “Ask a ^asign for yourself from the LORD your God; ¹make it deep as Sheol or high as ²heaven.”

 

Is. 14:9  “^aSheol from beneath is excited over you to meet you when you come;

It arouses for you the ¹spirits of the dead, all the ²leaders of the earth;

It raises all the kings of the nations from their thrones.

 

Is. 14:11  ‘Your ^apomp and the music of your harps

Have been brought down to Sheol;

Maggots are spread out as your bed beneath you

And worms are your covering.’

 

Is. 14:15  “Nevertheless you ^awill be thrust down to Sheol,

To the recesses of the pit.

 

Is. 28:15  Because you have said, “We have made a ^acovenant with death,

And with ¹Sheol we have made a ²pact.

^bThe overwhelming ³scourge will not reach us when it passes by,

For we have made ^cfalsehood our refuge and we have ^dconcealed ourselves with deception.”

 

Is. 28:18  “Your ^acovenant with death will be ^1bcanceled,

And your pact with Sheol will not stand;

When the ^aoverwhelming scourge passes through,

Then you become its ^ctrampling place.

 

Is. 38:10  I said, “^aIn the middle of my ¹life

I am to enter the ^bgates of Sheol;

I am to be ^cdeprived of the rest of my years.”

 

Is. 38:18  “For ^aSheol cannot thank You,

Death cannot praise You;

Those who go down ^bto the pit cannot hope for Your faithfulness.

 

Is. 57:9  “You have journeyed to the king with oil

And increased your perfumes;

You have ^asent your envoys a great distance

And made them go down to ¹Sheol.

 

Ezek. 31:15   ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “On the day when it went down to Sheol I ^acaused lamentations; I closed the ¹deep over it and held back its rivers. And its many waters were stopped up, and I made Lebanon ²mourn for it, and all the trees of the field wilted away on account of it. ¹⁶ “I made the nations ^aquake at the sound of its fall when I made it ^bgo down to Sheol with those who go down to the pit; and all the ¹well-watered trees of Eden, the choicest and best of ^cLebanon, were ^dcomforted in the earth beneath. ¹⁷ “They also ^awent down with it to Sheol to those who were ^bslain by the sword; and those who were its ¹strength lived ^cunder its shade among the nations.

 

Ezek. 32:21 “The ^astrong among the mighty ones shall speak of him and his helpers from the midst of Sheol, ‘They have gone down, they lie still, the uncircumcised, slain by the sword.’

 

Ezek. 32:27 “^aNor do they lie beside the fallen ^1bheroes of the uncircumcised, who went down to Sheol with their weapons of war and whose swords were laid under their heads; but the punishment for their ^ciniquity rested on their bones, though the terror of these ¹heroes was once in the land of the living.

 

Hos. 13:14  Shall I ^aransom them from the ¹power of Sheol?

Shall I redeem them from death?

^bO Death, where are your thorns?

O Sheol, where is your sting?

^cCompassion will be hidden from My sight.

 

Amos 9:2  “Though they dig into ^aSheol,

From there will My hand take them;

And though they ^bascend to heaven,

From there will I bring them down.

 

Jonah 2:2  and he said,

“I ^acalled out of my distress to the LORD,

And He answered me.

I cried for help from the ¹depth of ^bSheol;

You heard my voice.

 

Hab. 2:5  “Furthermore, ^awine betrays the ^bhaughty man,

So that he does not ^cstay at home.

He ^denlarges his appetite like Sheol,

And he is like death, never satisfied.

He also gathers to himself all nations

And collects to himself all peoples.

 

The word Gehenna in the New Testament is translated as ‘hell’ 12 times. This is incorrect as it should be tranlated correctly as the ‘valley of the sons of Hinnom’.

 

1067. γέεννα; gēnna (others would accent gēnna, deriving it through the Chaldee. In Mark 9:45 Rec.st gēna), gēnēs (Buttmann, 17 (15)), hē, (from gê hinnom, Neh. 11:30; more fully gê ben hinnom, Josh. 15:8; 18:16; 2 Chr. 28:3; Jer. 7:32; gê bĕnê hinnom, 2 Kings 23:10 Kethibh; Chaldean gĕhinām, the valley of the son of lamentation, or of the sons of lamentation, the valley of lamentation, hinnom being used for nihom lamentation; see Hiller, Onomasticum; cf. Hitzig (and Graf) on Jer. 7:31; (Böttcher, De Inferis, i., p. 82ff); accusative to the common opinion hinnom is the name of a man), Gehenna, the name of a valley on the south and east of Jerusalem (yet apparently beginning on the Winer’s Grammar, cf. Josh. 15:8; Pressel in Herzog, under the word), which was so called from the cries of the little children who were thrown into the fiery arms of Moloch (which see), i.e. of an idol having the form of a bull. The Jews so abhorred the place after these horrible sacrifices had been abolished by king Josiah (2 Kings 23:10), that they cast into it not only all manner of refuse, but even the dead bodies of animals and of unburied criminals who had been executed. And since fires were always needed to consume the dead bodies, that the air might not become tainted by the putrefaction, it came to pass that the place was called gēnna tou puros (this common explanation of the descriptive genitive tou puros is found in Rabbi David Kimchi (fl. circa A. D. 1200) on Ps. 27:13. Some suppose the genitive to refer not to purifying fires but to the fires of Moloch; others regard it as the natural symbol of penalty (cf. Lev. 10:2; Num. 16:35; 2 Kings 1; Ps. 11:6; also Matt. 3:11; 13:42; 2 Thess. 1:8, etc.). See Böttcher, as above, p. 84; Meyer (Thol.) Wetstein (1752) on Matt. 5:22); and then this name was transferred to that place in Hades where the wicked after death will suffer punishment: Matt. 5:22,29f; 10:28; Luke 12:5; Mark 9:43,45; James 3:6; gēnna tou puros, Matt. 5:22; 18:9; Mark 9:47 (R G Tr marginal reading brackets); krisis tēs gēnnēs, Matt. 23:33; huios tēs gēnnēs, worthy of punishment in Gehenna, Matt. 23:15. Further, cf. Dillmann, Buch Henoch, 27, 1f, p. 131f; (B. D. American edition; Böttcher, as above, p. 80ff; Hamburger, Real-Encycl., Abth. I. under the word Hölle; Bartlett, Life and Death eternal, Appendix H.).*

 

GK G1147 | S G1067   γέεννα   geenna   12x  

 

Gehenna, pr. the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, once celebrated for the horrid worship of Moloch, and afterwards polluted with every species of filth, as well as the carcasses of animals, and dead bodies of malefactors; to consume which, in order to avert the pestilence which such a mass of corruption would occasion, constant fires were kept burning; hence, hell, the fires of Tartarus, the place of punishment in Hades, Mt. 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9, et al. → hell.

 

Matt. 5:22 “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be ¹guilty before ^athe court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘²You good-for-nothing,’ shall be ¹guilty before ^3bthe supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be ¹guilty enough to go into the ^4cfiery hell.

 

Matt. 5:29 “^aIf your right eye makes you ¹stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you ²to lose one of the parts of your body, ³than for your whole body to be thrown into ^4bhell. ³⁰ “^aIf your right hand makes you ¹stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you ²to lose one of the parts of your body, ³than for your whole body to go into ^4bhell.

 

Matt. 10:28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather ^afear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in ^1bhell.

 

Matt. 18:9 “^aIf your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than ¹to have two eyes and be cast into the ^2bfiery hell.

 

Matt. 23:15   “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one ^1aproselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of ^2bhell as yourselves.

 

Matt. 23:33 “You serpents, ^ayou brood of vipers, how ¹will you escape the ²sentence of ^3bhell?

 

Mark 9:43 “^aIf your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into ^1bhell, into the ^cunquenchable fire,

 

Mark 9:45 “If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into ^1ahell,

 

Mark 9:47 “^aIf your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into ^1bhell,

 

Luke 12:5 “But I will ¹warn you whom to fear: ^afear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into ^2bhell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!

 

James 3:6 And ^athe tongue is a fire, the very world of iniquity; the tongue is set among our members as that which ^bdefiles the entire body, and sets on fire the course of our ¹life, and is set on fire by ^2chell.

 

The word translated in 2 Peter below as ‘hell’ is not correct. It is the word ‘tartaroo’ as shown below.

 

5020. ταρταρόω; tartaroō, tartarō: 1 aorist participle tartarōsas; (tartaros, the name of a subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to the Gehenna of the Jews, see gēnna); to thrust down to Tartarus (sometimes in the Scholiasts) (cf. Winer’s Grammar, 25 (24) n.); to hold captive in Tartarus: tina seirais (which see) sofou, 2 Pet. 2:4 (A.V. cast down to hell (making the dative depend on paredōken)).*

 

2Pet. 2:4   For ^aif God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and ^bcommitted them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;

 

The word ‘pit’ shows up in the NT in Revelation 9:1 and is translated from the original word frear.

5421. φρέαρ; frear, frearatos, to, from the Homer hymn Cer. 99 and Herodotus 6, 119 down; the Septuagint for bĕʾēr and (in 1 Sam. 19:22; 2 Sam. 3:26; Jer. 48:7,9 (Jer. 41:7,9) bôr (a pit, cistern), a well: Luke 14:5; John 4:11f; frear tēs abussou, the pit of the abyss (because the nether world is thought to increase in size the further it extends from the surface of the earth and so to resemble a cistern, the orifice of which is narrow), Rev. 9:1f.*

 

Rev. 9:1   Then the ^afifth angel sounded, and I saw a ^bstar from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the ^ckey of the ^1dbottomless pit was given to him. ² He opened the ¹bottomless pit, and ^asmoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and ^bthe sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit.

 

What is the word, in English, that best describes the abode of the wicked dead?  It is "hell".  If you use any other word (e.g. if you transliterate Sheol, Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus), then you need to go into a long explanation (or leave your readers none the wiser), which is fine for a commentary, but not for a Bible translation.

If it is the abode of the physical body that is in view, then "grave" is fine (as a translation for Sheol); but, "grave" is definitely incorrect when it is the soul/spirit that is in view.

The physical is often a type of the spiritual.  Physical death is sometimes used as symbol of spiritual death (not inertness, but being dead to God and goodness).

The truth of eternal punishment in hell, for the wicked, is one of the basics of Christianity.  There should not be a single Evangelical who denies it.

[David1701]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

 

Perish used 22 times in the NT

Mounce Greek Dictionary (Greek Entry)

 

GK G660 | S G622   ἀπόλλυμι   apollymi   90x  

 

to destroy utterly; to kill, Mt. 2:13; to bring to nought, make void, 1 Cor. 1:19; to lose, be deprived of, Mt. 10:42; to be destroyed, perish, Mt. 9:17; to be put to death, to die, Mt. 26:52; to be lost, to stray, Mt. 10:6 → destroy; lose; perish.

 

 

 

Matt. 5:29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

 

Matt. 8:25 Then His disciples came to Him and awoke Him, saying, “Lord, save us! We are perishing!”

 

Matt. 8:32   And He said to them, “Go.” So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine. And suddenly the whole herd of swine ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and perished in the water.

 

Matt. 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.

 

Matt. 26:52   But Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.

 

Mark 4:38 But He was in the stern, asleep on a pillow. And they awoke Him and said to Him, “Teacher, do You not care that we are perishing?”

 

Luke 8:24 And they came to Him and awoke Him, saying, “Master, Master, we are perishing!”

 

Then He arose and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water. And they ceased, and there was a calm.

 

Luke 11:51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.

 

Luke 13:3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.

 

Luke 13:5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

 

Luke 13:33 Nevertheless I must journey today, tomorrow, and the day following; for it cannot be that a prophet should perish outside of Jerusalem.

 

Luke 15:17   “But when he came to himself, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

 

John 3:15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

 

John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

 

John 10:28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

 

John 11:50 nor do you consider that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation should perish.”

 

Acts 5:37 After this man, Judas of Galilee rose up in the days of the census, and drew away many people after him. He also perished, and all who obeyed him were dispersed.

 

Acts 8:20   But Peter said to him, “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money!

 

Acts 13:41 “Behold, you despisers,

Marvel and perish!

For I work a work in your days,

A work which you will by no means believe,

Though one were to declare it to you.’ ”

 

Rom. 2:12   For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law

 

1Cor. 1:18   For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

 

1Cor. 8:11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?

 

1Cor. 15:18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.

 

2Cor. 2:15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing.

 

2Cor. 4:3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,

 

2Cor. 4:16   Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day.

 

Col. 2:22 which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men?

 

2Th. 2:10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

 

Heb. 1:11 They will perish, but You remain;

And they will all grow old like a garment;

 

Heb. 11:31 By faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace.

 

James 1:11 For no sooner has the sun risen with a burning heat than it withers the grass; its flower falls, and its beautiful appearance perishes. So the rich man also will fade away in his pursuits.

 

1Pet. 1:7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ,

 

2Pet. 2:12   But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,

 

2Pet. 3:6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.

 

2Pet. 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

 

Jude 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

 

Destroy used 36 times in the NT.

Thayer (Greek Entry)

 

2647. καταλύω; kataluō; future katalusō; 1 aorist katelusa; 1 aorist passive kateluthēn; 1 future passive 3 person singular kataluthēsetai; to dissolve, disunite (see, III. 4); a. (what has been joined together) equivalent to to destroy, demolish: lithous (A.V. throw down),

 

Matt. 2:13   Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, “Arise, take the young Child and His mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word; for Herod will seek the young Child to destroy Him.”

 

Matt. 5:17   “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

 

Matt. 6:19   “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;

 

Matt. 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

Matt. 12:14 Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

 

Matt. 21:41   They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

 

Matt. 26:61 and said, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and to build it in three days.’ ”

 

Matt. 27:20   But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitudes that they should ask for Barabbas and destroy Jesus.

 

Matt. 27:40 and saying, “You who destroy the temple and build it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross.”

 

Mark 1:24 saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are—the Holy One of God!”

 

Mark 3:6 Then the Pharisees went out and immediately plotted with the Herodians against Him, how they might destroy Him.

 

Mark 9:22 And often he has thrown him both into the fire and into the water to destroy him. But if You can do anything, have compassion on us and help us.”

 

Mark 11:18   And the scribes and chief priests heard it and sought how they might destroy Him; for they feared Him, because all the people were astonished at His teaching.

 

Mark 12:9   “Therefore what will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and destroy the vinedressers, and give the vineyard to others.

 

Mark 14:58 “We heard Him say, ‘I will destroy this temple made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.’ ”

 

Mark 15:29   And those who passed by blasphemed Him, wagging their heads and saying, “Aha! You who destroy the temple and build it in three days,

 

Luke 4:34 saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are—the Holy One of God!”

 

Luke 6:9 Then Jesus said to them, “I will ask you one thing: Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?”

 

Luke 9:56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.

 

Luke 19:47   And He was teaching daily in the temple. But the chief priests, the scribes, and the leaders of the people sought to destroy Him,

 

Luke 20:16 He will come and destroy those vinedressers and give the vineyard to others.”

 

And when they heard it they said, “Certainly not!”

 

John 2:19   Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

 

John 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

 

Acts 6:14 for we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and change the customs which Moses delivered to us.”

 

Rom. 14:15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.

 

Rom. 14:20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with offense.

 

1Cor. 1:19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,

And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

 

1Cor. 3:17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

 

1Cor. 6:13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

 

Gal. 1:13   For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it.

 

Gal. 1:23 But they were hearing only, “He who formerly persecuted us now preaches the faith which he once tried to destroy.”

 

2Th. 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

 

Heb. 2:14   Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

 

James 4:12 There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?

 

1John 3:8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

 

Rev. 11:18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,

And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,

And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,

And those who fear Your name, small and great,

And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”

The worst destruction of all is to be separated from God and from all that is good, in torment, forever.  Destruction, in this context, is not annihilation.

[JohnD]

On 6/28/2021 at 12:55 PM, Leonardo Von said:

At first, the Holy Scripture says:

 

• "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" (Num 23:19)

 

Nevertheless, the Holy Scripture also says:

• "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." (Gen 6:6).
• "Thou hast forsaken me, saith the LORD, thou art gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against thee, and destroy thee; I am weary with repenting." (Jer 15:6).
• "And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not." (Jon 3:10).
• "If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them." (Jer 18:10).

 

How to sort out this quandary?

No quandary. Plurality of persons in the Godhead. You said it yourself the Creator repented. Jesus (preincarnate) is the lone Creator of all things created in the beginning (Isaiah 44:24 / John 1:3 / Colossians 1:16). Yet he did not know the day of his return (Mark 13:32).

Is Jesus a lesser god? No. He is equal to the Father:

He is described elsewhere in this way, but here in particular:

Philippians 2:6 (AV)
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Note also the phrase being in the form of God. In the Greek: morphe theos huparchon = never ceasing to be God.  The overall gist of the passage (Philippians 2:5-11) is that God the Word (John 1:1) who became a man (John 1:14) is God incarnate who emptied himself of something (Philippians 2:7) to become a man, but that something was not his deity (Philippians 2:6). 

The answer to this and your query (which was a good question BTW) is quite simply this:

Acts 1:7 (AV)
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Again, Jesus did not know the time of his return but the Father does (Mark 13:32). The Holy Spirit must himself search the mind of God (the Father) see 1 Corinthians 2:10.  Whether it is a matter of his assuming the office of ultimate authority, or of his remaining in a sate of deity that is far above what it would take to relate to temporal beings (like men and angels)... the Father alone has that all-knowingness.

It is interesting when one does a study into the distinctions between the persons in the Godhead and the offices each holds buttressing the doctrine of the Trinity.