AandW_Rootbeer Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2021 "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men."—2 Timothy 3:1-5 If these Verses do in fact describe Modern Day America, that means America is being described similar to the people's mindset before Noah's Flood and the peoples mindset of Sodom and Gomorrah before Fire and Brimstone. Since we know how America is and the Governments stance on many new idealism's, should we be looking for America to crash and burn? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW_Rootbeer Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 From the Codex Sinaiticus: :1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, without self-control, fierce, that love not the good, 4 traitors, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness, but denying its power; from these also turn away. 6 For of such are they that enter into houses, and lead captive silly women burdened with sins, led away by various desires, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post appy Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 23 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,864 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 2,596 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 They describe the world as a whole. Not just one country. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2021 13 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said: "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men."—2 Timothy 3:1-5 If these Verses do in fact describe Modern Day America, that means America is being described similar to the people's mindset before Noah's Flood and the peoples mindset of Sodom and Gomorrah before Fire and Brimstone. Since we know how America is and the Governments stance on many new idealism's, should we be looking for America to crash and burn? That describes our world today. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 350 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,508 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,408 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2021 "If God doesn't judge America soon, He owes an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah ~ Ruth Graham (I think?) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,269 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,891 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2021 12 hours ago, appy said: They describe the world as a whole. Not just one country. I also believe so. But I believe Paul is warning Timothy of things to come within the 'church' specifically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW_Rootbeer Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 12 hours ago, appy said: They describe the world as a whole. Not just one country. Agreed, but in Scripture, the result of God's Wrath came specifically for an <action of rebellion> in how the population of where Noah was located at (Mesopotamia), or the specific region of Sodom and Gomorrah existed had specifically opposed God (USA is doing that currently in the House and Senate and been doing as such since the 1960's and since the Founding Fathers). I am merely pointing out, compared to Noah's day or Sodom and Gomorrah's day, the USA itself can fit into these categories. But in general, I do believe the entire world is guilty of these actions found in 2 Timothy 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW_Rootbeer Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Dennis1209 said: "If God doesn't judge America soon, He owes an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah ~ Ruth Graham (I think?) Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW_Rootbeer Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sower said: I also believe so. But I believe Paul is warning Timothy of things to come within the 'church' specifically. When I read these Verse, that begin with in perilous times + last days, I think this means more along the line the Church will deal with these issues, but not in as majority of Believers will become like this, but these will be the Challenges for that day and time, which is obviously now. But these Verses describe the way sinful man will be that the Church faces. And the USA just so happens to fit these Verses <closer> in reality than the majority of others. 1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, without self-control, fierce, that love not the good, 4 traitors, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness, but denying its power; from these also turn away. 6 For of such are they that enter into houses, and lead captive silly women burdened with sins, led away by various desires, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted August 19, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2021 16 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said: "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men."—2 Timothy 3:1-5 If these Verses do in fact describe Modern Day America, that means America is being described similar to the people's mindset before Noah's Flood and the peoples mindset of Sodom and Gomorrah before Fire and Brimstone. Since we know how America is and the Governments stance on many new idealism's, should we be looking for America to crash and burn? Hi, Rootbeer. . . I think we should be looking for a one-world system, the antichrist, and then the second coming of Jesus Christ. Matthew 24:37-39 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Selah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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